Where do you keep your home defense shotgun and what load do you keep in it ?

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  1. Chuck S Active Member

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    5.56mm NATO is an amazingly inefficient cartridge thru walls. It's one of the least efficient cartridge you can shoot indoors as it has minimal wounding potential after penetrating walls. This did not please the Army but there are plenty of tests that validate it. Now, if you miss the target completely and miss all your walls the bullet is very effective at the neighbors dog. But thru walls it's very inefficient. Not gonna say "safe" of course. And I'm excluding true mouse calibers like .22LR, .32ACP, etc.

    You gotta aim a shotgun. TV and movie scenes notwithstanding.

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  2. Keith Moderator

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    Aim a shotgun? More like point. Granted, it's a little more refined than "point and shoot" but when you are looking caliber diameter point of impact compared to a 2-4" diameter point of impact, actually aiming isn't as important. Of course, 2-4" would depend on how close the target is to you in the house...
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  3. bonehedz Active Member

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    What is pointing a shotgun if not a rudimentary aiming? Ever see a "point shooting" demonstration? Some chaps have developed "Pointing" a gun to a high art…my shotgun patterns 4"-6" at distances within the confines of my apartment. Pretty easy to be half that off in a panic (i.e. someone waking you up from a dead sleep as they crawl through your window).
  4. bonehedz Active Member

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    I do however agree that a shotgun is a shotgun, and should not be pressed into services best left to a rifle. To that end, rifle sights on a defensive shotgun may actually be the most useless items in existence. Remember,at pistol ranges, the shotgun is king...
  5. Keith Moderator

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    I was just trying to say it would be more than shooting from the hip.

    Maybe I'm confusing the shot diameter with a point blank shot. I didn't think it would open up that much that quickly.
  6. bonehedz Active Member

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    At seven feet the wad and shot cluster makes one hole, about 1 1/2" in diameter…at seven yards it opens to between 4-6 inches…this is through a cylinder bore 20 inch barrel...
  7. Marneaus Moderator

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    Lately it has been this, next to the bed. For simplicity/east of use for the woman. Point, pull one trigger, pull the next trigger.




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    Loaded as such, with 2 00 buck.
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  8. bonehedz Active Member

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    Good choice…KISS…I used to have one of those above every exterior door when I lived in the sticks…never had to use one but they are mighty comforting to heft when someone/thing is banging around on the porch at 0 dark:30…although I do believe (but I may be mistaken) that the scattergus I had were somewhat more abbreviated...
  9. Marneaus Moderator

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    KISS is the goal. If it comes down to a shotgun I grab when headed out the door, I'll take the 870P. When something goes bump in the night, i want the smallest most simple thing possible because the one using it will be the woman (I prefer a pistol for HD duty), and she'll be using it because the threat has gotten past me.

    Also, it's a 20" coach gun, so, they don't get a whole lot shorter than that without some hefty paperwork lol.
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  10. jwb47 Active Member

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    I keep a mossberg 500 loaded with 3 inch number 4 copper coated BB's for when turkeys attack .

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  11. bonehedz Active Member

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    Barrels look longer, hard to judge due to perspective. I can tell you from personal experience (in the '80s, when I was young punk, saving the world in Nicaragua) that a twelve gauge, when pointed a one's head, looks as big as a sewer drain…don't rely on the sound of racking the slide to scare anyone…you will only be treated to the sound of an AK safety or two being taken off…now what?
  12. MudBore New Member

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    I have an H&R P3 in a locked case under the bed with 6 rounds of reduced recoil 00 buckshot. I am more likely to go for my 1911 in the pistol safe next to the bed though.
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  13. Ulfberht Training and mentoring the next generation.

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    The Escort I bought came with a 2nd barrel for turkey; it has been sitting for years, so I recently sawed it off at 20" from the bolt face (so the rib on the muzzle end would have support). I wanted 18", but that would have left the rib suspended.

    I pulled the plug and took it out to pattern it at 15 paces; using some 3" steel double B, and was quite satisfied with the pattern and amount of damage to the targets and the berm. Going to try 2-3/4" slugs and buckshot next week if my shoulder feels better.

    A 5th she'll in the mag (2-3/4") makes more sense than 4 (3") shells.

    The rifled slug barrel on my 870 is fairly accurate out to 75 yards or so; been sitting for years too.

    We are empty nesters, so things are positioned and/or re-positioned accordingly; unless the grandchildren come to visit.

    I suppose it would be the weapon of choice to confront something (close-in) in the dark.....
  14. Fritz373 Member

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    In the bedroom - Just a standard old style 12 gauge side by side.
    Has #7.5 bird shot next to it.
    Going to change out the shells (getting OLD) for #4 shot. (not bird shot)

    I live in a "congested" area.
    Single family homes 20 feet apart next to each other and 100 feet apart opposite each other.
    In the basement, where I am most of the time, I have access to a number of rifles and hand guns.

    Also, first line of defense is 52 pounds of fur on four feet, with an exceptionally loud bark!
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  15. jason.hayes3 JAFO

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    Gun rack mounted inside my closet above the double doors. If you don't know it's there you don't even see it. As for ammo, I keep a open box of single 0 buckshot for such emergencies

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  16. Keith Moderator

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    An now the feds know where to look. :-P
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  17. jason.hayes3 JAFO

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    And after they find it, they can be sure that was all I had lol

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  18. downs Pew Pew Pew

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    Winchester model 1200 that's had the barrel cut down to min legal length, with 2 shot mag extension. Cylinder bore. Loaded with 00 Buck when in a HD role but my primary hd gun is my Carbine. I do have slugs on hand but don't load those for HD use those are for field and competition use. It is close by though.

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