What's your scope, rings, mount setup?

Discussion in 'Modifications' started by RoyP, Jun 14, 2013.

  1. RoyP Active Member

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    I would like to start a thread where guys can list what mount, ring hieght, scope size and how much room you have between the bottom of the bell to the barrel. along with a pic

    I don't want it to turn into a brand bashing thread, I just thought it would help people determine what size scope, rings and mount work together on the mvp for future purchases.

    here is my setup
    Base- Blackhawk 20 moa extended multi-slot picatinny(fits rem. SA)recoil lug must removed
    rings- UTG max strength twist-lock low hieght(10mm) 30mm picatinny
    scope- BSA 6-24x44 tactical mildot side focus, 30mm tube,3" sunshade, butler creek caps

    I have 3/8" from the barrel to the bottom of the flip up cap.


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  2. Boxmonkey New Member

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    Base-Stock
    Rings-RedHead Z2 Medium
    Scope-Sightron SII 3-9x42 HHR
    .126 between scope cap and barrel
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  3. bombadillo Moderator

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    EGW one piece base, and I believe those were Leupold low aluminum rings. It has maybe 1/16" gap between bell and barrel. I wish I could get all my rifles to fit like this.
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  4. wood chucker Moderator

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    Sorry no pics.

    20" Predator, Nikon 3-9 Pro staff in Weaver low rings atop a EGW 0 degree base.
    Have to measure the clearance 'tween the objective bell and the barrel but there is enough for comfort.
  5. Broncman New Member

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    Will try to get pictures later.

    I took this setup off of my Savage Mark II FV-SR, figured I didn't need that much scope on a 22LR.

    18.5" Predator with Millet TRS-1 4-16X50 and Millet Tactical 30mm Low Rings #DT007713. Had to shim front ring mount by .012 to achieve .005 between bell and barrel, wish I didn't have to shim but for now it works.
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  7. NJGunner New Member

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    Here's my setup: Monarch SF. Burris rings.
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  8. Precise1 New Member

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    Hello all, new member here! My wife has outgrown my 10/22 (and I'd like to shoot it sometimes as well ;) ) and expressed some interest in a bolt action. I suggested .223 because I already stock it and it would be low recoil for her but suitable for real target shooting. Some research, a local Big 5 Sporting Goods store and a coupon led to a MVP Varmint for under $580 out the door (fees included). Now it is time to figure out scope mounts, and this is the thread I was looking for! Only thing is, there isn't the info I was hoping for so perhaps you can answer a few questions for me, please?

    1)When you list your scopes, ie. Millet TRS-1 4-16X50, are you referencing the diameter of the objective lens, or the actual OD dimension of the optic bell?
    For example, I have a 3.5x10x44mm scope on a rifle and the actual OD of the bell is 57.15mm (2.25"). It is the OD we should be listing here, correct?

    2)What about the thickness of the base as well? IIRC, I read that the stock weaver bases are .266" thick, but when used with the following chart, base thickness isn't even mentioned. It seems like that could be a make or break scenario, especially if you are trying to stay as low as possible. I won't even throw in the aftermarket rail variances...

    borrowed from the good people at Midway. http://www.midwayusa.com/content/legacy/ring_height.htm

    I was trying to get ahead of the game (we are in the 10 wait period) and get everything ordered, but I guess I'm going to have to wait until I have the rifle in front of me to get this properly worked out. When I do, I'll post the base thickness, the ring type and saddle height along with the optic bell diameter, clearance and a picture so hopefully it will help someone else.
    Oh, my login is something I have used for over a decade and does not reflect my shooting ability, rather the fact that I am a precision machinist. Probably why I am so anal about getting this scope measurement worked out.

    Thanks!

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  9. RoyP Active Member

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    I wanted this to be basic help for the average guy looking to upgrade. most scopes are sold as for example 3-9x40, 40 being the objective lense size. few have the actual bell measrements listed on the package. the same with rings. if you buy say weaver tactical rings the package lists them as low, medium, or high the only thing the package reads is fits up to a 40mm objective ect. there is only one 1-piece base available for the mvp but remington sa base will fit with a little work. most 1 piece bases are close in hieght, not the same but close. same with most rings, not the same but close. a side focus bell will be smaller than a front focus of the same size. I guess what I'm saying is unless you are trying to get the bell so that it's only a couple of thousands away from the barrel, the exact measurements of each piece of equipment isn't really needed.
  10. Shaun Member

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    Nobody should grow out of 10/22s.

    This is my setup

    Millet TRS-1 4x16 50, OD of objective is 58.9 mm
    EGW 20 MOA Rail, the height from the top of the receiver to the bottom of the rear groove is ~0.400"
    EGW HD Tactical Rings, 0.850" height
    Vortex level
    The front of the sun shade is 0.160" off the barrel

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    I'll probably mill the back of the rail to a 45 degree angle the next time I have the scope off so I can move it forward a little more. I usually shoot it prone off a bipod.

    Very happy with the gun. The EGW bits are awesome. The scope is what it is.
  11. RoyP Active Member

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    very nice. I have had to mill off the last rail before myself. EGW does make quality stuff.
  12. Brad Scales Member

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    Now she is ready!

    Old Harris bipod
    SightMark Triple Duty 8.5-25x50 w/Sunshade and bubble level
    Weaver 3 screw medium height rings
    WWII era leather cheek riser w/new rawhide
    Midway 20 rnd mags

    1/8" clearance bell to barrel

    On order, a Witt Machine Muzzle Brake

    Entertaining the idea of going with a black finish on the stock and a carbon fiber dip
    on the barrel

    Oh yeah, almost forgot, Black Sharpie accents on the "M" and the grip relief.



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  13. Marneaus Moderator

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    Hokay!

    Got everything mounted and mocked up.

    SWFA SS 3-9x42
    Warne Maxima Low Rings, Steel.
    Stock mounts. May eventually go 1 piece.

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  14. Masterdebater New Member

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    am i blind or did you not tell what kind of scope? if not do tell! i love that fit!
  15. bombadillo Moderator

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    Sorry, It is a Truglo Infinity 6-24x44ao with the fine target reticle. I got it for a screaming deal. For a cheap target scope thats good for 20x worth of power, I haven't had an issue with it and I've shot a LOT of rounds with it. For a sub $200 scope, its a great setup. Glass gets really dark after 20x though so I usually shoot it at about 18x or so.
  16. Precise1 New Member

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    My apologies, I didn't mean to criticize the posted information but rather point out as you did that the general information available isn't complete, certainly not to the point where you can calculate an accurate stack up/clearance amount.
    I do politely disagree with your statement that "exact measurements... isn't really needed". It is easy to provide this information and would allow people to determine how well or close things would fit, be it a scope you love, mounts you prefer, etc. Perhaps it is just that I work in the field, but it would be simplicity to provide a picture that details the outside dimensions of each product; you can damn well bet the manufacturer has them...'

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  17. Precise1 New Member

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    I bow to your wisdom, you are absolutely correct. What I should have said is that my wife has all but mastered my 10/22 (other than hold over @ 100 yards VS 50) and is ready to test her skills with a longer range, flatter shooting round (much like a young Jedi).

    Ok, all that said, here is a picture of how my wife's new rifle is set up (I'm jealous BTW).

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    It is a MVP Varmint 24" with a Nikko Stirling Gameking Illuminated Reticle 6x24x44 w/1" tube mounted on Burris Signature Zee Rings "high" matte black #420531 with .420" lift from base (.490 actual from top of mount) which gives .2" clearance for a 57.35 (2.258") bell. I rather like the Zee ring design and plan to use them in the future, at least for low to medium calibers. Some might not like the polymer insert and 2 screw design, but it seems self centering and robust, not to mention if you have alignment or range issues, they sell offset inserts that can correct errors or give you more 'lift'. I believe someone here had exactly that issue...

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    I had measured the factory mounts (what I used and blue Loctited in place) but I'm not sure where the info is and will have to get back to you. Unfortunately, I am King of Post-It scrawls, bar napkin drawings and random notations. Pray you never see my desk...

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    The thinner one is the front mount and they seem to be different makes. The rear has grooves in the center relief, the front doesn't and the machining marks on the ends look quite different.
    If yours shows up with one 3/32 Allen head screw essentially stripped like mine, if you are careful, you can form the well with the ball end of a 2.5mm Allen and then tap in the business end to break it loose (and in my case, reinstall it. .0938" VS .0984")

    It is a beautiful rifle that shoots very nicely and allows me to shoot like a pro (when I'm not!).
    I am jealous that it is my wife's but if I behave, she might let me shoot it... :D

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  18. RoyP Active Member

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    very nice, is the crossbolt for the rings a torx's too? I had a pair on a used rifle. I liked the rings but the crossbolt was just a slot screw head. if it was a torx i probably would have kept them.
  19. Precise1 New Member

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    Thank you! I am quite happy how it has turned out, and all for about $700!

    Yes, the cross bolt is also a Torx and yes, that wrench is included with the rings (a nice touch). I did have to spread the clamping legs slightly to get it to slide on the front mount though. They both slid on fine on the rear which another reason I speculate on different manufacturing. It will make more sense when I post the dimensions...

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  20. RoyP Active Member

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    I must have had an older set of rings. not sure if the mounts are different brand from each other,it was the first thing I took off. I just looked at the 3 sets I have and they all have the same machine marks on the front and rear, they are also stamped with weavers numbers. maybe something thbat mossberg changed at some point.

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