Watching the snow fall, (or boredom sucks!)

Discussion in 'The Black Rifle' started by bluealtered, Jan 11, 2015.

  1. bluealtered New Member

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    As i sit here watching the snow fall this early sunday morning i got to thinking about that dreaded black rifle, ... that led to thinking about how many over the last 40yrs or so i have built or ruined or just shot the sh*t out of. And to be honest i just can't remember how many, i certainly remember in the mid to late sixties all the gun rags either bragging about them or saying how it was the worst thing ever done and would never catch on, what a waste of time and money. It seems that never is indeed a long time, look at them now, 50+ years later.

    Now back to the soap box, ... in the many years of building and sometimes beating them to death just to see what it took there was/is one thing that for the most part was the same for just about all of them if they were mil-spec. That is that it hasn't really mattered if that upper or lower receiver was super cool and cost $500 for each piece or was only say $50 each as can be bought at the moment.

    I have three ar's sitting here now that cost right at $400 each or for one of them less than $400 to build. Yes they shoot good, are they target rifles? no we aren't talking about target ar's. We are talking about the one that sits in the truck or goes hunting every time you go hunting. My point is very simple, they can be anything you want them to be. They can cost $5,000 or they can cost less than $500, the dead predator out there at 300yds really didn't care which it was.

    I have come across very few ar's over the years that are shot out unless they were used in combat. I happen to have one here with one of the first plum crazy composite lowers on it that has over 3500rds through it and still going strong. For that matter i once bought a dpms lo-pro just to shoot until it quit shooting because i wasn't going to clean it until it did. It went over 600rds before it said enough, what other rifle do you have that can do that?

    So, what do you do to yours and how many rds have you put through it?
  2. Al in Mi Active Member

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    I have a couple of "parts guns" that were done for under $400 and go bang every time and will do 1 1/2" all day long.

    My pet truck gun I spent a few more $$$ on, billet uppers/lowers, White Oak barrel, RRA 2 stage trigger. This gun has close to 3000 rds thru it and rarely shoots over 3/4" with it's pet load. I don't know how many rounds it'll run before stopping, I do know the kids have pumped 4-500 thru it on a weekend and it never quit.

    Barrel, trigger, optics, are the heart of the whole system IMHO.
  3. Ridge Runner Member

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    Hey. Slightly off subject. I was in The Gun Store in Las Vegas to rent a couple of full autos. I got to talking about their wide selection of full autos when he mentioned an AK that they have never cleaned. He said the plan is to run it until it stops. At that time they were up to around 10,000 rounds and the gun still functioned fine. What do ya think? Was he blowing smoke or could that be possible?
  4. Keith Moderator

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    I have a S&W M&P10 myself. It's still pretty new, so maybe 100 rounds have been put through it. Being deployed for the summer didn't help with that. I'm itching for some range time but temperatures in the teens and twenties doesn't make for fun shooting weather.

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  5. bluealtered New Member

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    Yes i just don't enjoy the cold like i use to either. It used to be fun sitting on coyote stands at 10 degrees but it just isn't anymore. Tomorrow will get to 35 they say, so out to the range for a couple of hours of shoot&shiver.
  6. Keith Moderator

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    The weather forecast says near 40 degree weather this weekend. I might just have to take advantage of that if it comes to be true.


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  7. Dougolet New Member

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    Yup, to me, AR'S are AR's. I never had one that was garbage. High end guns are great, but I just feel bad abusing them, so they don't get used like they're supposed to. If I had a ton of $$$ which I don't, I'd have a high end pretty show off range target toy, and some midrange beaters. Having served in the military and law enforcement, I've used them for they're intended purpose, rough and tough, shoot all weather, get dropped in mud/sand/water and used again. Of course a thorough cleaning in the end is a must. Then, it gets put in the safe for the next time. If I find something I'd like to change, I'll do so, but at this point in time, she's all set. I just have one at the moment and I've had her for years with no problems at all. An Aero Precision AR, originally with the A2 carry handle, changed to a flat top, soon to be changed to their new Enhanced upper and forend (I hate quad rails and will be going with smooth sides). It has a bipod, NC Star Acog clone quick detach, (which had held its zero for years now) with a red laser in it and I have an older great mini Streamlight on it. I forgot the two magpul Mbus flip up sights ( in case the QD scope fails) no more no less. I bought it 6 years ago is so used, it had great trigger work already done. I got a deal on everything I've put on it, it needs no more, no less. I guess the point of my ramble is: It's a gun designed to take a beating, so use it as you wish, but have fun and use it hard, I've never had one fail. It's an extension of you, built the way you like it, it doesn't matter what anyone else thinks. I'd say mine is a mid grade set up and I love it, take care of them, clean em, and you'll have an awesome rifle that will outlast you.
    Keep up on politics, vote for those on our side, be wise with your toys, they're an awesome responsibility, make gun owners look good, it only takes one idiot to ruin it for the rest of us. Happy shooting everyone!
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