I've taken up trap again mostly because my wife digs it and that's the only kind of shooting we get to do together. Hell it's about the only time we get to do stuff just me and her at all. Went out on Sunday. It was 10am and already blazing hot. 95deg in the shade and not much of that to be had. There were 2 other guys at the public set with their families. My wife and the 3 of us gents took up positions at the 15yrd line and at the end the other 2 guys had hit in the teens. I didn't keep good track of their scores like I usually would and stopped counting their misses after 5 each. My wife pulled in a 17/25 and I pulled in a 17/25. The other chaps were using a new Weatherby semi-auto and a camo'd benelli nova. I was not confident at the outset at how they'd do because they had 24"-ish barrels and trap is a game that loves 28-30+ in pipes. It's not a major handicap but handicaps are just that. My wife used my Savage M21 12ga with 28" full choke. It's basically a copy of a Winchester M12 but with a trickier takedown system. I used my Savage 745B with full choke 30" pipe. I don't like how that gun shoots unless there's a 2nd round in the mag. The wife decided one game was enough for her to take the beating for so I ran the last 2 myself, I had 4 tokens. I went up with the 2 other chaps and they continued their teens level shooting but now I had my Savage M21 which is my favorite pump gun for trap (I prefer SxS for trap). The first round I 'sploded 23/25 and was feeling pretty good about myself. The other 2 guys were obviously a little wounded. I went from shooting right with them to going to a different class altogether. Both commented on the fact that I went from average shooter to really good shooter. I said, "yeah, I like when I can use my own gun. I do better with it." We went up for another round and this time I pulled 22/25 which really pissed me off. I was trying for a clean 25/25 really hard. 1 plain screw up broke that plan and then 2 big gusts of wind blew me hard on consecutive shots and it was not to be that I'd even tie my previous 23. Disheartened I walked back to the line and now the other guys as asking for tips. I showed them how I deal with light long barrels by going all Chris Costa with my hold (long straight off-hand arm, grip the tip of the mag tube and pull back, don't hold tight with the trigger hand, lean hard forward). We talked a bit about the tendency for people to aim like it's a rifle and stop moving and I showed them a couple techniques I use to keep from stopping, since I do basically rifle aim but in constant motion. We left after that having had a good time. I was starting to overheat and needed serious cooling down before my body flipped out on me and after 75 rounds of 3 dram 12ga loads and holding the shotgun up with my extended off-hand arm it was getting pretty tired too. I don't remember ever running a clean 25 in my life but I might have. It's a current goal. I've been running 2x's for a few years though so I may have actually peaked with as much practice as I'm willing to put in.