Took Some Folks Shooting

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  1. spamassassin Well-Known Member

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    In my job I spend most of my time on-boarding new people and teaching them how our systems and procedures and such work and getting them trained on the technology. The bulk of people that come through come in from non-permissive countries where firearms ownership by us plebs is generally a fairy tale. India (almost zero real legal civilian firearms), Ireland, France, England, Scottland, and Canada have some really great people in them but those people have usually no exposure to guns whatsoever. Like never even felt one.

    The latest batches went out with me a few days ago and yesterday. I didn't get pictures from yesterday but I did from the previous one. We took my 9mm Helwan Brigadier, a .22lr MKIII, a Dan Wesson 15 .357, a Glock 21 and one of my .45ACP chambered Mausers.

    Started them all off on the .22, went 9mm, then .38spl, then .45acp, then .357mag and finished up with some of my wildcat .45Cinderblock rounds (.460rowland cut to .888 w/ 185gr JHP loaded to 2080fps).

    One of the guys was actually an IDPA shooter and showed his stuff well. The tall dark-bearded guy is my spotter, The Disco Tripper. Everyone else was newb.

    Yours truly:
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    The .45Cinderblock Mauser
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    Our IDPA shooter with a group from my G21 from 15m
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    We started our lone lady shooter with a Ruger MKIII Target Competition. She seemed to take well to that.
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    Then we cranked it up a notch every few minutes. The face of a Scottish woman who's never touched a gun before that day just after touching off 4x .38spl 130gr and 2x .357 110gr. Later she jumped in and shot 2 full cylinders of .357 and a full mag (13rounds) of my defense load .45acp (185gr JHP 1120fps)
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    Yours truly demonstrating proper pistol shooting technique with my 9mm
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    Shooting the Mauser. This thing turns heads for how weird it looks and then again when they hear the report and feel the concussion.
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    The Disco Tripper having just shot a pistol after almost a year of shooting everything else but pistols.
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    Ammo selection for the day, mins the Cinderblock loads, they just look like JHP .45's anyway.
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    Mr IDPA after playing with the Cinderblock Mauser
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    Our Scottish lady touching off a 110gr .357mag Winchester Westerner load from a .4" Dan Wesson with a .003" cylinder gap. You can see the sparks shooting out the side. This was clipped from a video frame. The only one we could get to come out with the monstrous fireball these loads make.
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    The old girl has sure seen some rounds today. Just look at that muzzle!
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    Jimmie's a little stunned after shooting the Cinderblock rifle. Didn't think you could get that much snot into a case that small.
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    At the end of the day we'd burned about 250 rounds of centerfire ammo and a similar amount of rimfire. I didn't really change any minds that day but I'm sure I made understandable to our Lady shooter that just because the country is full of guns doesn't mean it's full of nutters. She's still against private ownership but at least understands that we can have it and still be a country of civility and law. Mission accomplished.
  2. Josh Turner Member

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    Great to see this! I agree 100 % that the first step in talking with people who think were all crazy for gun ownership is to take them out and have some educational time. I also work with people who come from countries that outlaw firearm ownership and I enjoy taking them and sharing our culture. Most of these people are from India as I am a SWE. The anti gun American citizens that I can't persuade into a outing I ask them the following question that really gets them thinking. The question I leave them with is as follows:

    The bill of rights is guaranteed to all American citizens and we freely exercise these rights. Without ever thinking that we are doing it. One of the only rights that you (anti gun person) have never exercised is your 2nd. There are people in American that want you (anti gun person) to remain uneducated about that right in hopes that you will willing give it up. So, before you willing and blindly give it up and demand others to do so please exercise it at least once. That way you (anti gun person) will have a more educated decision on giving up your right.
  3. spamassassin Well-Known Member

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    Being known around the office as a competition shooter really eases the anxiety of being known as a "gun guy" but it doesn't help with the anti's, that's for sure. I've had a lot easier time with simply inviting people from non-permissive countries than with those from ours. I guess they take the view that they have the right and don't want it so why exercise it (which is directly to your point, and well made there). Those from restrictive countries seem to realize that this is a freedom they might actually like to have. My tactic when dealing with anti's who are american is rather than to invite them individually, I invite their whole team as a team building event. Let a little unspoken peer pressure work it's magic. Thankfully my boss is a Texan rancher's son in the finest tradition of Texans and the head of the whole organization is former Swedish military officer who just doesn't GAS about the issue. Apparently though tightly bureaucratized, gun ownership in Sweden is more or less not that big of a deal at all. Both of them are quite supportive of my hobby and my proclivity for sharing it.
  4. MechTech Moderator/ Damn Yankee

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    Great way to support the shooting sports and enhance our gun culture! ;)
  5. Tye New Member

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    A lot of smiling faces in this post!
    Thanks for being a great ambassador.....

    Cheers...Tye
  6. spamassassin Well-Known Member

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    Just doin' my part. For those in California and western Nevada and Arizona we're having the California 2016 High Power Metallic Silhouette State Championship match is January 30th and 31st at Avenal Gun Club. All are welcome. You must be a member of or join CRPA to compete. Any non-.22 cal, non-magnum rifle is acceptable. Open sights or scoped. No muzzle brakes. Flash hiders ok. Entry fee is usually 50 bucks. Course of fire will be 2days of 40 round matches, standard gun and hunter gun matches will likely be on different days. If form holds it'll be standard gun the first day. Standard gun is 10.2 lbs max weight and any safe trigger. Hunter gun is 8.5lbs max weight and 2lbs minimum trigger pull. Weights are empty mag, with scope and bolt installed.

    It'd be good to see some folks try it out. For a competition it's not got many competitor types (you know what I'm talking about). Just a lot of fun people shooting a challenging sport. Prize table this year is pretty stunning. If you're a newb you'll go in as unclassified which means a good chance to win if you've got decent standing shot.

    Guns should be capable of MOA or better and strings of 5 rounds in 2.5 minutes. If you decide you want to attend as a contestant or spectator please let me know so I can give you some tips.

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