Sneak Preview: Sig Kilo 2200 LRF

Discussion in 'Optics and Tactical Gear' started by spamassassin, Feb 11, 2017.

  1. spamassassin Well-Known Member

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    I do the occasional article for Long Range Hunting Magazine and recently they sent me a Kilo 2200 for evaluation and an article. I thought I'd share some thoughts with you guys before the article goes to press.

    NOTE: Ranges given below are just as far as I could find something that day. Not the max range of the device.

    Size: It's small. Like the same size as a 600 yard capable golfers LRF.
    Weight: It's light. You won't even know you're carrying it. Same weight as a golfers LRF.
    Large Reflective Performance: Worked without a hitch to 1500yrds against stuff like white steel entry doors, large-ish signs and concrete.
    Small Reflective Performance: Worked easily out to 1300m against 2MOA steel. Worked easily to 1100 against plastic barrels.
    Large Non-Reflective: Worked to >700yrds against wet grass that was laying away and downhill from me.
    Small Non-Reflective: Hard to tell. Sometimes it was picking up the ground or other things in the field of view for sure and others it was picking up the target. At ranges close enough to be sure it was no problem. Beam divergence seems to be the issue here. It's pretty small but not infinitely small.
    On course performance: On the match course it was perfect. Zero issues getting ranges on our targets. This is a huge deal because only a Terrapin from Vectronix has been able pick up some of our targets in the past. No LRF's with 1000yrd and under ratings could reliably pick up the steels we had from 200-1000yrds. They're very often smaller than 1MRAD which is smaller than the beam divergence of all but the highest end LRF's.

    Using the thing offhand against dirt, fenceposts, barrels, targets, doors, signs, etc... I found it remarkably easy to use even compared to a Terrapin. It was a non-issue to pack and really you have to experience it to believe how quickly and accurately it gives ranges and how small and non-reflective those targets can be.

    At $500 this is so far beyond well worth the money it's silly. The ONLY thing on the market that competed well is a Terrapin and they don't even make those anymore. When they did they were 4x or more the cost of this Kilo 2200.

    If you do long range hunting (which I do not advocate) then you'd be a fool not to invest in the latest LRF's from Sig. I'm a born-again convert to them. Until I got a chance to use this thing I was really down on LRF's since the only one that was worth a damn was 2 grand and I'd already wasted enough hundreds of dollars trying to find a good one. Now, hell I'm going to run out and buy one of these.
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  2. spamassassin Well-Known Member

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    Ok guys, after completing my review and article (article will be published on longrangehunting.com's e-magazine) all I have to say is run out right now and get one. Sell your dog if you have to. These things are just amazing. If you do any long range work at unknown distances, especially hunting beyond 150yrds, you should own a Kilo 2200.
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  3. wood chucker Moderator

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    So where do I get one ?
  4. spamassassin Well-Known Member

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    There's a pre-order going on at longrangehunting.com.
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    Seeelllllllll my DOG!!!
    NO WAY BUSTER!!
    Take the WIFE !!! (just kidding)
    This is Fi at 2 years old last summer.
    Just a simple old SATO.
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  6. spamassassin Well-Known Member

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    Now that's a purdy pooch.
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    Thank you.
    55 pounds of pure love and energy.
  8. spamassassin Well-Known Member

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    Now with video and pictures.

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  9. Keith Moderator

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    If I ever get a chance to shoot out to more than 200-300 yards, I'll have to look at geting one of those. I have a fairly nice Leupold range finder that is supposed to be good to 1,000 yards but that is under ideal conditions. I suppose it would theoretically be good to 800-900 yards for something less than an bright colored steel plate but advertised performance doesn't always equal real world performance.
  10. spamassassin Well-Known Member

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    Generally you're looking at half of the advertised reflective object performance for non-reflective but time of day and target composition come into play too. That's the smallest problem though and one where shortening battery and laser diode life to increase beam energy can help. The limiting factor there is how intense you can make that laser but that's relatively cheap and easy to boost.

    Beam divergence is where the metal meets the meat with laser range finders. There's a balance between sizes that needs to be hit for any particular application. Kilo beam divergence on the 2000 is IIRC 1.4 x 1.4 mrad which is square (probably circular) while the Terrapin is .4 x 2.4 mrad (very unbalanced toward horizontal with a very fine vertical), Bushnell Fusion 1-mile LRF binos have a 1.5 x 3 mrad (just kinda big all around but very tall) divergence. For a proper discussion of LRF performance, especially beam divergence, http://precisionrifleblog.com/2014/03/06/vectronix-terrapin-review/ Having used the Terrapin side by side with the Kilo, I prefer the kilo for a lot of reasons, chief being it was dramatically easier to use.
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  11. Keith Moderator

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    Good to know. Thank you. My guestimate was too optimistic then. I'm fine for now but if I ever get an opportunity to stretch out more, I'll need to get better equipment. Not an unexpected development.
  12. spamassassin Well-Known Member

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    When I bought my first LRF it was also my last until this came out. Otherwise I'd just wait till a buddy got a new one and semi-permanently borrow his old one. I did a huge amount of testing and research over the years and never found anything worth a purchase of my own till this new SIG offering. The Kilo 2200, I'll be owning one soon enough.

    Almost any LRF is good to 500yrds anymore. Beyond that is the exclusive zone of expensive things. A 1000yrd Loopy model should be easy enough to use to around 600yrds on something like an elk or big deer but will get tough to use on non-huge non-reflective targets beyond that. For anyone that doesn't shoot long range, well beyond 500yrds, regularly I don't think there's much value in spending the money unless it's for a hunt and only then because hunts are expensive.

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