Scout optic on .308 patrol

Discussion in '308/ 7.62 MVP and Variants' started by Marneaus, Oct 21, 2016.

  1. Marneaus Moderator

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    Is there an option to mount a long eye relief scout on an MVP patrol? Am evtemded or forward mounted rail?
  2. Keith Moderator

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    Mossberg uses a rail that utilizes the location that the rear sight on the Patrol mounts to mount the rail on the Scout model. I seem to remember someone else looking to do the same thing you are asking but was having problems sourcing the rail from Mossberg or else where. I may be remembering incorrectly though.
  3. boostless Active Member

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    That was me, I emailed Mossberg and received no return email. The scout is something I would like but I didn't see it until a week after I had already purchased my scout.
  4. downs Pew Pew Pew

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    With the detachable magazine of the Patrol there's no need for a LER scope, since that feature was mostly used to allow the use of stripper clips.

    A rear mounted Low Power Variable (I switch between a red dot and a Weaver V3) should also make a better balanced gun.

    I will admit the forward mounted scope does look cool on bolt guns and I've thought of making a low cost scout using my M44 Mosin Nagant as the rifle and either a red dot or LER scope.


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  5. wood chucker Moderator

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    My reason for wanting scout rail aint for pushing the scope all the way forward, just another inch or so. That and I like a really good tough durable set of back up irons.
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  6. Keith Moderator

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    Never even thought about the stripper clips or the internal magazine. Most everything you see now in a scout rifle has a detachable magazine.
  7. wood chucker Moderator

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    There is enough meat in the rear bridge of the .308 MVP to mill the exact same stripper clip slot they use on the M40 sniper rifle and the stripper clip will align up with the magazine like its supposed to too. Rifle smiths who do M40 clones shouldn't have any problem cutting the slot. That would make hasty re loads handy for fellas living in places that might not allow hunting with detachable magazine rifles.
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  8. boostless Active Member

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    I also emailed XS sights who make one for the Ruger GSR and they flat out said no they won't be making one. I email Mossberg again and will update if I receive a response this time.
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  9. wood chucker Moderator

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    We might have to do a group buy. Getting them made is proving to be the hard part. I been turned down by every machine shop in a two hundred mile radius unless we all want to pay through the nose or can make a minimum order of 500 pieces. Either case the wait was projected at 18+ months.
    I aint giving up anytime soon.
    Talking to a shop in Idaho next week also having lunch with a local semi retired machinist this week. Shooting for a rugged drop on front and rear sight set and a scout rail with ghost ring that goes from the rear bridge all the way forward to the current location of the rear sight on the barrel.

    Wish me luck.
  10. boostless Active Member

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    This is the response that I received from Mossberg

    "Thank you for your email. Unfortunately at this current time we do not offer that rail as a separate accessory item. Thank you."
  11. Keith Moderator

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    Unfortunately, they are not the only one. I know some people over at a S&W forum that are having the same issue with S&W when it comes to buying parts. To me it's bad business. People want to buy parts made for their platform of rifle made by the company that is known to fit properly and work. Seems to me there is money to be made there since people like to tinker. Maybe I'm missing something...

    At least Mossberg hasn't taken the policy that any modification of their rifle voids the warranty. On a M&P10, if one changes out the trigger or muzzle device, the warranty is void. Don't even speak about changing a hand guard or something bigger. For that reason, chances are good my future ARs will all be build projects. If I ain't gonna have a warranty, I might as well not have one on a rifle that has everything I want....
  12. boostless Active Member

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    Only reason I can think of them doing this is that they need to keep parts for production. Once they get caught up on demand they might start letting them out.
  13. spamassassin Well-Known Member

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    ^^^ that seems to be how it was for all the parts folks wanted a year or so ago. used to be you couldn't get any parts, now they have a parts list and for most parts it's not a big deal.

    One of the guys here put a really slick little peep rear sight on his picatinny rail. It was nice and low profile so it fit under the scope. That and a proper height solder-on front sight and you've got good backup irons without needing to do anything radical. Drilling and tapping a pic rail should be pretty easy, almost all are aluminum. Get yourself something like http://shop.opticsplanet.com/xs-sig...plusbox-beta&gclid=CPCg6tahitACFUiCfgod3b4P7w and all you have to do is shove your rear ring forward enough to make the space.
  14. boostless Active Member

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    Well it's looking upward at least, I responded to the email I received asking

    "Are there plans in the future to offer this for sale separately?"

    And the response was

    "Yes we most certainly do. However I cannot say as to when but I can say soon."
  15. Keith Moderator

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    "Soon" in corporate speak could be five years from now but at least you got a positive response.
  16. wood chucker Moderator

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    I hope "soon" don't mean 5 minutes after meeting with the machine shop next week. If it does mean that then it needs to be good and they need to price it right. And I mean really right or it ain't gonna cut it against CNC'd T-6 goodness.
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    "Soon" is encouraging. I'm in the market for just such a rail for my 308 TR, with the aim of adding a peep rear sight. Guess we'll wait & see.
  18. boostless Active Member

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    Well I just threw the Williams sights on my patrol so it'll probably be a while until I switch it up
  19. Noob_Marksman New Member

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    What about just using an offset mount? I've seen a couple that are easily 2 inches.
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  20. wood chucker Moderator

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    Can you post pics and links maybe ?

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