New member from SC

Discussion in 'New Member Check In' started by Jdigi, Jan 11, 2017.

  1. Jdigi New Member

    Member Since:
    Jan 10, 2017
    Message Count:
    4
    I've done a ton of reading on this forum and finally got around to joining. I picked up an MVP Patrol in 7.62 in December 2015. I had my eye on a Ruger Scout but it was more than I wanted to spend. Plus I liked the fact that the MVP had a few different mag options. I couldn't be happier with my decision. The only issue I had was the picatinny rail came loose after I got it sighted in. I put lock tite on the screws and haven't had anymore problems. The rifle is way more accurate than I expected. I used the MVP all of deer season and shot three deer ranging from about 30 yards out to 150 yards.

    This rifle was supposed to be a part time hunting rifle but it turned into my full time rifle. I'm not impressed with the stock it's a little flimsy. I'd like to upgrade the stock and trigger guard by next deer season. Looking at maybe a Boyd's stock and one of the trigger guards I've seen offered on this site.
    wood chucker likes this.
  2. wood chucker Moderator

    Member Since:
    Dec 19, 2012
    Message Count:
    1,616
    Hey Jdigi,
    Welcome to the boards. Glad to hear the rifles working out for ya and congrats on the venison haul ! What stock is on your Patrol ?
  3. boostless Active Member

    Member Since:
    May 5, 2014
    Message Count:
    201
    I think they started putting synthetic stocks on them.

    Welcome! I use mine for hunting as well but was not able to harvest any this year.
  4. Jdigi New Member

    Member Since:
    Jan 10, 2017
    Message Count:
    4
    Yeah mine came with a synthetic stock that is pretty flimsy. Once the rifle gets hot after a long shot string the whole group opens up a bit and shifts to the right. I'm hoping a nice stock and bedding will help. Other than Boyd's ate there any other suggestions on stocks?
  5. wood chucker Moderator

    Member Since:
    Dec 19, 2012
    Message Count:
    1,616
    An MDT chassis or a good used take off from somebody switching up their stock.
  6. Keith Moderator

    Member Since:
    Dec 7, 2014
    Message Count:
    1,197
    Welcome! Man I'm glad mine came with a wood stock! I don't mind the 5.56 having a polymer stock but the 7.62 needs better than polymer.
  7. Jdigi New Member

    Member Since:
    Jan 10, 2017
    Message Count:
    4
    Please correct me if I'm wrong but isn't the MDT chassis stock better suited for bench shooting rather than carrying in the field? Seems like I read that somewhere.
  8. boostless Active Member

    Member Since:
    May 5, 2014
    Message Count:
    201
    The LSS is a lighter chassis option. Typically chassis systems are heavy but they are also durable which is why they carry them in the "field." For hunting purposes though I would just want a stiff synthetic stock or wood. I've not personally handled a LSS system so I can't really say if I would want to carry it or not.
  9. spamassassin Well-Known Member

    Member Since:
    Aug 8, 2014
    Message Count:
    1,129
    Ok, since I see this question so many times and it bothers me that stock design is so sparsely understood I'll give some info:

    There are many kinds of stock. I'm focusing here on stocks designed for use with an optic of some sort but will note at least one that's not.

    Offhand stock: Drop at heel is pretty large. Comb height is usually very tall (on the order of an inch or more) off of the heel. Comb rises into bolt path if not above it. Meant to keep your head position vertical while standing. No craning your neck over. Pistol grips get very nearly vertical.
    [IMG]

    Benchrest stock: Has no drop at heel, butt is inline with the barrel but on a lower plane for straight back recoil without bashing your face into cheek risers. Meant to ride on rollers or bags, not necessarily always to be shouldered in the traditional manner. This one is obviously exaggerating those features but that's what a stock for use on a bench looks like. You don't use bipods on a bench, you use bags or rollers. Pistol grips on these are long and curved back, not vertical.
    [IMG]


    Tactical stock: Super rigid, super durable, highly adjustable, nearly vertical or vertical pistol grip, adjustable comb height and stock length and length of pull occasionally adjustable separately. These are normally used prone but also do very well in positional shooting and from obstacles/barricades due to their adjustability. These suck from the bench since steep pistol grips will frequently cause knuckles to get bashed on stuff and tall cheek pieces don't usually work well at the bench for a lot of reasons.
    [IMG]

    Sporter/field Stock: What's good in the field is a standard sporter stock. They're not great at anything but they're useful for bloody near anything without major sacrifice. Below is just about the quintessential example. Long curved pistol grip, short comb height, minimal drop at heel, light weight, subtle cheek piece. They suck a bit from the bench, they suck a bit prone, they suck a bit standing, they suck a bit against obstacles/barricades. Hell, they mostly suck a bit except when you need a stock that can do anything reasonably well. There they don't suck at all.
    [IMG]

    Then you have the levergun/iron sight stock. It's meant to keep your head low enough to use iron sights and sports a serious drop at heel and a pretty good rake to the overall angle. That puts the barrel pretty high over the stock and adds to muzzle rise. They're brilliant for fast standing shots but suffer a bit for most other shooting except being braced against something like a tree. Nothing as comfy as an iron sighted levergun bucked up against the side of a tree for stability. For me at least.
    [IMG]

    When selecting a stock, you want to put your eye behind the sights while it's got a good cheek weld to the stock. Cheek piece height from barrel, drop at heel and toe, pistol grip angle, fore end layout and size and stock weight and adjustability all matter when selecting a good stick to mount your bang bar into.
  10. wood chucker Moderator

    Member Since:
    Dec 19, 2012
    Message Count:
    1,616
    I do believe the LSS with a standard AR but stock is right about the same weight weight as a factory laminate Predator stock.
  11. Jdigi New Member

    Member Since:
    Jan 10, 2017
    Message Count:
    4
    Thanks for all the great info guys. So many decisions it's hard to decide. I'd like to have this rifle exactly the way I want it by this fall.
  12. Keith Moderator

    Member Since:
    Dec 7, 2014
    Message Count:
    1,197
    The down side to the LSS stock is the lack of a substantial forward stock for grip and keeping your hand off a potentially hot barrel. It's a great bench rest stock and perhaps prone shooting stock but is not a field stock.

    Spamassasin did an excellent job of explaining the different designs and their intended purpose.


    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Share This Page