NEW AMMO - PERFECTA

Discussion in 'Ammunition and Reloading' started by MXSENIOR, Aug 13, 2014.

  1. MXSENIOR Member

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    Just tried a new ammo from Wally World. Excellent, tight overlapping grouping, but was hitting about three inches low on a zeroed scope at 100 yards. Could the be rounds short on powder??? My research says that the Perfecta is made by Fiocchi. Great price, but worried there may be some QC issues. You reloaders got any thoughts??
  2. MXSENIOR Member

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    Here a shot of what I'm talking about. The "A" area is Rem 150 Gr PSP. IF the shooter was better it definitely would group tighter. The group to the left is what I wound up with centering on the "D" using the Perfecta. Just a POI change due to the difference in ammo reaction in the rifle or another issue? Temps were 90 degrees, no wind, prone with bipod, some heat shimmer. Suggestions/thoughts?
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  3. bombadillo Moderator

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    That happens often times with various ammo. My ammo will be 4-6" off from one brand to another. As long as I get precise, accurate groupings, I will be happy with it. You can always move it around with your scope so long as you have enough elevation and windage to do so.
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    Same gun, same day, 2 different groups.
  5. jwb47 Active Member

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    there are a number of factors . different powder burn rates , length of bullet , different neck tension on the case , different ballistic coefficient , different primer , boat tail verse flat base. their is a good reason reloaders keep a log book for repeatable and consistent loads .
  6. Randy New Member

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    this is nothing more than the bullet exiting at a different point of the barrel harmonics cycle. A classic example of this is when working up a load, you can actually watch the pattern circle around your point of aim and even watch as higher velocity loads drop in point of impact.
  7. seabreeze133 Member

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    Picked up some Perfecta 223 brass at the range to reload and found flash holes off center. IMHO not worth it if u reload.

    seabreeze
  8. wood chucker Moderator

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    Whoa ! Thanks for the heads up. I'll be keeping an eye out for more feedback before I pull the trigger.
  9. Geir Andersen New Member

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    I have 200cases from fiocci 223 55grs that I have been shooting in my patrol,prepped the cases today and found 37 cases with the flash hole way out of center.
    Will be reloading the best with hogedon cfe and nosler 69grs.
    My local gun store says its a good combo,my first reload ever,will keep you imformed of result.
    Just ordered 200 cases from Lapua in 223.
  10. Barry Hedrick Member

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    Absolutely true...in a big way. They were off center larger then any other I've seen so far. Other than annoying, does anyone know what this would affect?

    Just picked up a case trimmer (Lyman) to eliminate using the flash hole as a pilot.
  11. spamassassin Well-Known Member

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    The number one cause of busted and bent decapping pins, junk brass with off-center flash holes.

    Perfecta is IIRC the kind of plinking line from Fiocchi. I've never been overly pleased with Fiocchi ammo. It shoots fine enough but consistency and component quality is not up to par with even big green's core-lokt offering.
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  12. Barry Hedrick Member

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    Thanks Spam....That would explain what happened to my pin! Couldn't figure out what the heck happened. Stuck a brass resizing and when I got it apart the pin was folded up. Lee was gracious enough to send me 3 new ones. I will pay closer attention and toss them if'n I find them.
  13. bombadillo Moderator

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    Personally I've never found that perfecta ammo has been all that great, but good to plant with and good to leave grass for other people
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  15. GrocMax Active Member

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    Best deal in 223 brass right now is the Federal 250 ct bagged 'Federal American Eagle', the bags marked '5.56x45mm NATO' are current LC headstamp NATO cross and all, the bags marked '223 Rem' are current FC headstamp, can be had for low $40's and are at local stores for mid $40's.

    And if you're nervous about FC headstamp stuff due to their issues in the past, its tougher than Lapua in my recent testing in 6TCU, its very very similar to LC in weight, and I wonder if FC moved 223 and 308 commercial production from up north to Lake City after they they took over operations of the LC ammo plant.

    NOT impressed with Lapua 223 brass at all. Loads that don't open up an LC or FC primer pocket open Lapua right up.

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