MVP Patrol 5.56

Discussion in 'Mossberg MVP Rifle General Discussion' started by Rod, Dec 23, 2017.

  1. Rod New Member

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    I owned just an MVP 5.56 predator, but as of today I now also have a MVP Patrol 5.56.
    I found and purchased a slightly used MVP Patrol 5.56 for 349.99 plus tax. This thing has a clean and crisp bore. This evening I will take it to my local indoor range and test it. I was going to rebarrel my Predator MVP, but no need for that now.
  2. Rod New Member

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    I still will probably get a PTG barrel nut on this MVP Patrol and maybe even a threaded 9x19mm barrel. That will be down the road. :)
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  3. Rod New Member

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    I really enjoy my 5.56 Patrol rifle, but I may actually get optics for it. ( unless there is a good quality, adjustable receiver mounted sight out there somewhere?? ) Maybe Tech-Sights? In the mean time, anyone know of a good BUDGET scope for the Patrol 5.56?
  4. wood chucker Moderator

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    I put a Williams WGRS on my 5.56 Patrol. Uses one for a Remington 700 and install it backwards. It worked fine but I took it off and put the EGW scope rail back on instead. Put a 700 WGRS on my .308 Patrol and It's still there.
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  5. Keith Moderator

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    Take a look at Primary Arms, Vortex, Nikon, and Leupold for good scopes for the money. PA has some ground breaking reticules in their optics and the glass is very good for the price you pay but it depends on what you are looking for in a scope. Most of PA's scopes are made in the same factories as the big names but you don't pay the big name prices. Since you have a Patrol, you might want to look at something in 1-6X or 1-8X magnification.
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  6. Rod New Member

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    I will look into Primary arms optics for sure. Thanks much guys!..I wonder if my MVP Patrol could handle STEEL cased .223Rem?? I haven't shot any STEEL cased ammo out of it yet...
  7. Keith Moderator

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    I wouldn't shoot steel ammo out of a bolt rifle. Semi autos tend to be a bit looser on the tolerances and handle it better. In my opinion, if the rifle wasn't designed with steel cased ammo in mind as the primary ammo, I wouldn't use it.
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  8. wood chucker Moderator

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    I dont shoot steel case ammo because the bullets are steel jacketed. Copper washed steel jackets but its still steel. Do the magnet test.
  9. Chuck S Active Member

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    Not sure I'd want to put 100,000 rounds of it thru any rifle but the few shots anyone normally shoots won't damage the rifle.

    Steel jacketed bullets were shot by the hundreds of millions by the US Army and others for decades. By late WW2, for example the majority was steel jacketed and cased. Copper is a strategic metal and in critical supply. The steel is softer than the barrel. Plenty of those old M1 Rifles and M1911 pistols are still punching one-hole groups despite this "abuse."

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  10. wood chucker Moderator

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    The US Mint made pennies out of steel in '43 and '44 so the copper could go to the war effort. I seen steel case .45 ACP and a few steel case .30 carbine rounds and couple steel case .30 Ball M2 training dummy rounds. Steel case didn't work so well in real use so none went to war. Those rounds are collectable.


    There's two big reason I don't shoot the steel stuff in my guns.

    Steel jackets are softer than barrel steel but not a whole lot and not as soft as copper. Peak accuracy only lasts however long with copper jacketed bullets as it is before the groups start to open up. My MVP's are no dogs so I'm not speeding that process up.

    Extraction issues. Steel cases don't spring back after firing like brass does. That causes extraction issues. The broken extractors we read about here all broke trying to extract steel cases.
  11. spamassassin Well-Known Member

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    Yep. I ripped apart extractors on steel cases and they don't like hot loads or gummy chambers either. A diet of copper washed steel jacketed bullets will nominally halve the life of your barrel. It'll pretty rapidly ruin the accuracy as it beats the crown to a nice smooth paste. There are 2 very distinct problems going on with steel cheapie ammo, steel cases are hard and steel jackets are hard. Both wear the gun barrel out. One in the chamber area and one in the throat and muzzle.
  12. Rod New Member

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    I removed my 5.56 MVP factory PLASTIC magwell and I cracked it by accident. No problem there because I no longer need it and it made removal of the mag release very easy. My problem is I cannot figure out how to install mag release into my Tromix magwell! Anyone out there know how to do this?? Also this stock on my 5.56 PATROL is made of fiberglass I believe.
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    There is a retaining pin that you push out with a punch. I don’t remember it being very tight. Pay attention on how you remove the lock arm and spring since you need to do the reverse to install. It isn’t bad. The 7.62 models are more difficult. You may also need to trim a couple nubs in the polymer stock a bit to allow the new mag well to fit.


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  14. Rod New Member

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    The pin and spring are out already. As I said, the mag release was easy to remove from factory plastic magwel because I accidentally cracked the plastic magwel. The way I removed mag release is not the same as installation. I absolutely cannot figure this out, I have worked on and fixed my privately owned Tokarevs, H&R shotguns, Ruger 10/22s, M98 Mausers, Siminovs and Kalashnikovs. This thing is a weird pain in the butt! I am stumped. My 5.56 Patrol is out of order for the time being. :( :mad::oops:
    Also I want to sell my other 5.56 MVP which is a Predator model. It will have to ship to a state that allows such rifle and to an FFL of coarse.
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    If I get a chance this weekend, I'll pull mine out and see if I can come up with a tutorial that is useful for you. It's drill weekend, so time will be a bit tight.
  16. Rod New Member

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    No worries Keith, I DID IT! I had to very carefully file on the bottom underside of the Tromix magwell to get the mag release in.
    Not quite enough clearance so I made a tiny bit more room and it is now done. Also, I did not have to file or dremel my 5.56 Patrol stock. I simply tapped ( with a plastic mallet ) the magwell into topside of stock and perectly into place. This Tromix magell that Troy manufactured is awesome! I wish Mossberg would hire him to make these for all of their 5.56 MVPs. GI mags fit tight and Pmags fit tighter. Thank you Keith for your input. :D
  17. Keith Moderator

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    Glad to hear it and you are welcome. Polymer mags have to be smacked hard in mine to lock. So hard it hurts, so all I have a steel and aluminum mags.


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  18. Rod New Member

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    Yeah thanks again Keith. Pmags have to be smacked in for sure! If you need good STEEL mags, the best STEEL AR15/M-16 mags are the ones made in Bulgaria! You can get them at clear view investments.These mags are built like a tank. The base plate design is similar to the Kalashnikov magazine. These Bulgarian STEEL mags are better than even the H&K M-16 mags.
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  19. Rod New Member

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    Well, now I wait for Ruger to come out with the Ruger American Ranch caliber 7.62x39mm with IRON SIGHTS. As soon as they do I am buying one. Great little bolt action carbine that can shoot STEEL CASED ammo and uses cheap reliable Ruger Mini Thirty magazines. Im just waiting for the RAR 7.62x39mm with IRON SIGHTS.
  20. wood chucker Moderator

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    Rod, a .300 black out barrel for your MVP will cost less than a whole new rifle. And you can use the mags you already have. Something to think about. If you go that way let me know.

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