Long Range match coming up this weekend. Special Prize Offer

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  1. spamassassin Well-Known Member

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    Targets from 200-900m. 1 minute per target. 6-7 targets per station. 50 shots total.

    This match is a bit of a beast but it's fun as hell. The hike is pretty strenuous for about 3/4 of the distance out and back and then gets plumb merciful. Winds are challenging but not impossible.

    Full description and rules at: http://avenalgunclub.com/wp-content/uploads/Long-Range-Match-Program-1.pdf

    If you're planning to attend please let me know so we can meet up and I can give you some tips for the course. If you help us build and install the new barricade the day before the match your entry fee will be waived. There are no trophies. This is for bragging rights and personal skill building. The group is a very supportive and helpful bunch of folks. Ladies are encouraged to come and break up the sausage fest.

    To see the course and some highlights of my last performance there:

    Match fee is $20.00
    Match registration 7:00 am.
    Match starts at 8:00 am.
    Match ends 3-5:00 pm.
    Range located in Avenal, Ca.
    Anyone from this board that shows up and beats my score will get a free B-FEDS kit from me customized for any 1 rifle and load combo you have. A $45 value. For details: https://ballisticxlr.com/baded-kits/ (halfway down the page). You pay flat shipping of $14 for UPS ground.
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  2. Keith Moderator

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    Is that the platform you were talking about building?

    All that open space and t-shirt weather! I'm somewhat jealous!
  3. spamassassin Well-Known Member

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    Sure is. Instead of doing a traditional roof section like I'd initially planned we built a table and mounted it via 5/16" carriage bolts to 6x 4x4 pressure treated sticks that we set 2 feet into the ground. The angled toe board is set at a distance and angle that makes the thing very uncomfortable to use and impossible to get natural point of aim (a design goal). Some folks did even use it and came up with creative solutions to the geometry. One gimme we did was to make the far side very nearly horizontal to the ground. That makes bipods walk and makes it harder to get flat or achieve NPOA but also helps minimize back strains.

    The day started out at around 50 degrees. That's pretty brisk when the morning winds pick up. Thankfully the walk is vigorous and it warmed up to 70 by the time I got to my first station and 75 by the time we got to the 3rd. It stayed like that all day with partial cloud cover breaking up the harshness of the sun and making up for the complete lack of shade. During spring it's pretty typical. In the summer it starts out frosty cold, hits 100 by 10am and stays there till near dusk. That persists till winter which is all of 2 days (usually during the state championships) of hellish cold and rain. Fall is indistinguishable from summer, especially since there are no deciduous trees around.
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  4. Keith Moderator

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    Well, shooting from just about any roof, outside of a flat one would certainly be uncomfortable. I can see your point with it though. No point in being cruel and angling the other side down like a peaked roof would. Though, I'm sure it would present all kinds of other challenges to over come and adapt to if you did.


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  5. jwb47 Active Member

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    well that certainly looks intersting and fun but I find the lack of trees disturbing . what rifle do you use to shoot these matches ?
  6. spamassassin Well-Known Member

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    No trees and the dirt is the ancestral bottom of a large inland sea and so is the finest of sandy powders (as evidenced by my pants in the video, and that was when it was relatively moist). Makes it into every nook and cranny and it's a mildly caustic so you really want to wash your rifle after dipping it into the dirt.

    Historically I've mostly used a 7mag or .308 for long range matches but for now I'm using my .223 MVP Varmint for a few reasons. One, so I can be in the limited class for .308 & .223 tactical rifles. Two, because the recoil is as mild as they come. Third because of the weight benefit of an MVP over a 18lbs magnum or 16lbs .308. And finally and most importantly, so I can work on beating the .223 course record.

    The course record is 37 of 50 with a .223. Guys with .308's and 6.5's and such routinely shoot the course clean (these are though epic shooters) but nobody has even come close with a .223 so I'm going to try to be the first to shoot a 40 and then a clean. If my loads were consistent enough last time I'd have cleared a 30 pretty easily. I'm pretty sure with my normal long loaded ammo that if I can keep my head clear and not get lost in the scope turrets again I'll either really scare or actually beat the current .223 record. The short loaded stuff was very inconsistent.
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  7. Ulfberht Training and mentoring the next generation.

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    So, it's not that CA would fall into the ocean, but BACK INTO the ocean? :D

    Addendum; I spent years 1-18 in the Alkali flats....Los Banos.
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    thank you for the info . good luck and above every thing else have fun .
  9. spamassassin Well-Known Member

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    Well, it looks like none of you showed up but that's to be expected. The prize wasn't beefy enough and the requirement to beat my score may have taxed some folks confidence. Suffice it to say I did really poorly by my standards. I goose egged 2 stages by not paying attention to air temperature closely enough. To make matters worse, the ammo I used this time wasn't running fast enough and the bullets destabilized after about 500m which caused me to lose all of the 600m and further targets. I normally run them at 2950 and this set was only going 2730. The bullets are only marginally stable to begin with when they're sizzling along at 2950. At 100m they grouped 20 rapid fire into just under 1 inch so it was a good node, just a bad speed. The low speed also compromised my BC badly enough beyond 600m that it was hitting super low and I couldn't account for it ahead of time or adjust for it.

    On the upside, inside 400m the thing was a laser. I ran a 7 round stage from 210m to 398m in under 2 minutes. This done manually loading one round at a time from a box of ammo. I guess the lads were impressed because I got an ovation (not standing). It was a particularly pride inducing moment because it wasn't just my squad. There were two other squads waiting at our station for their turn (because one of the guys on our squad took like 5 minutes per target... pissed us all off). Most of the guys that were in the waiting squads were professional shooters.

    We built another obstacle and now have populated each of the 8 stations with an obstacle. The new one is meant to give shooters 7 positions to shoot from, 1 per target.

    Here's a pic of someone using the obstacle we built last time. Looks like folks are figuring it out. I took the opportunity to put that green indoor/outdoor crap carpet substitute you find on the porches of mobile homes onto the deck so it won't burn people when the sun bakes on it. That seemed to go over really well as it was pretty hot out there.

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    I took my new US Optics ER-25 equipped onto my Savage 10FPSR out for a little load testing and generally horsing around. I found a good N550 load for my .308's (45.5grains, touching lands, win brass, #34 primer). It turned out 3/8" groups and was fun. Later on all the people that were camping at the range for the match the next day went out with our .308's and did some night shooting. The clarity and light gathering ability of my new USO ER-25 really made the difference, so did their reticle illumination. I managed to turn it down far enough that it didn't obscure the black painted steel targets which were being illuminated only by moonlight (and not a lot of it). I put in shots from 200-500m at the steels and missed 1 shot I took at a glow stick. Since I missed, it fell off the target top onto the ground at the base of a steel silhouette. So, me being me I tossed a round at the steel and the spall opened up the glow stick which soaked immediately into the ground. Another shooter took out the other glow stick with a single aimed shot and by then we were all out of playin' ammo and went to sit around the bonfire.

    I was again the top .223 shooter by virtue of being the only one. This time I pulled a 19 of 50. Last time was a 22 of 50. The course record for .223 is 37 of 50.

    I'm thinking of taking my .308 out soon for one of these but I don't think my shoulder will take the recoil of 50 rounds along with the 15lbs rifle and 5lbs backpack, 5lbs of ammo and 10lbs of water and food through that brutal hike.
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  10. Keith Moderator

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    Sounds like a lot of fun!

    I like the new obstacle and what you did with the other. I'm sure everyone will appreciate them.

    Do you have anything on the .308 to reduce some of the recoil? It might take some of the sting out it for you.


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  11. jwb47 Active Member

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    well if it wasnt on the other side of the rockies I would love to give it a go. I just stuck a trijicon 2.5 x 10 x 56 on my savage fcp-sr and cant wait to wring it out . but work and other commitments are going to prevent it for a week or two . I am shooting in a uspa match saturday . Gonna run my 1911 in the single stack division .
  12. spamassassin Well-Known Member

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    Good luck JWB. That's a fun sport. It's really hard to do around here or I'd be doing a lot of it. Not a lot of ranges are even adaptable to it and the one that is is being shut down.

    Keith: Yeah, I have a brake on it that's fairly effective but my shoulders are just glass anymore. Pro-tip to the youngins in the room, don't use your body as a forklift. What I need to do is pop off the recoil pad from the MOE stock and figure out how to stick something beefier on, then replace the brake with a much more effective one like a Dean Maisey Tresamax. I'm a bit loathe to do all that though because I've been really wanting to get a 7mm-08 barrel and just go that route. I haven't done that yet though and I'm not sure if I want to right yet because that'll put that rifle in the open class. I still have the MVP for my T/R class rifle but .223 isn't always the best option. In the summer the winds are fierce and the .223 just won't play if it gets too rough.

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