Leatherwood 1-4x24 "Nitrogen Purged" from Sportsman's Guide

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  1. downs Pew Pew Pew

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    Below is review I wrote on the Sportsman's Guide website for this optic. The one I have now I ran on my AR but I'm seriously considering another one for my soon to be out of jail Patrol 308.


    This is my initial review. I finally got it out the desert to zero and see how it shot at range. Initial zero was quick taking less than 10 rounds. Out of the box zeroing at 100 yards I only required 6 clicks of elevation and 6 clicks of windage adjustment was was centered on the target. I added a cheap "coaster" for a throw lever and found the magnification adjustment to be smooth and easy but not so easy that it will flop back and forth and change on you.

    The turret cap set screws MUST have locktite installed or you will lose them. The screws come without locktite on them (really the only reason I gave it 4 stars instead of 5) and will back out. I fired 300 rounds under the optic that day and almost lost the windage turret. The turret cap set screws are also what clamp onto the adjustment wheels and if they come loose turning the turrets will do nothing but spin them without actually adjusting anything.

    As for not coming with a mount. Who cares I didn't expect it to come with one. I mounted this using a 35 dollar UTG Throwlever offset mount. You pretty much have to go with an offset mount if you want to mount this to an AR type rifle/carbine. Again as with the optic itself, with the UTG mounts blue locktite is your friend.

    After zeroing I was able to easily make 2 and 300 yard hits on 66% sized IPSC steel targets. Being this is an initial low round count review I can't say it would make a good Home defense optic or not as it's reliability hasn't been proven to me but for the cost and what it's done for me so far I'd have no issues using this as a beat around plinker, ranch gun optic, or competition optic if you don't want illumination. I did not want illumination and the added weight/complexity of a battery and electronics so I'm glad I went this route. So is my wallet.



    This link is to the Sportsman's Guide website which is the only place I know of that carries this specific optic.
    http://www.sportsmansguide.com/product/index/leatherwood-1-4x24mm-scope-nitrogen-purged?a=1925621&SID=imf8z1x9sr00b0ax012b1&CJ=1&cjaffilid=6160012&cjaffsite=VigLink&cjadv=CJTSGUSA&cjadvid=1522857&utm_source=VigLink&utm_medium=CJ&utm_campaign=Redirect-Enabled Deep Link

    Link to the Coaster for poor man's throw lever. I run these on my 3-9 optic as well
    http://www.amazon.com/Breakaway-Nylon-Coaster-Cat-Tail/dp/B00AAIRRTY/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1459366669&sr=8-1&keywords=coaster throw lever

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    Plinking 300 yard steel from the supported prone.
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  2. downs Pew Pew Pew

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    Here's a link to the AR-15.com thread where I also did a review and including an unboxing which I will post below.


    http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_18/687989_Sportsman_s_Guide_Leatherwood_Hi_Lux_CMR_clone.html

  3. downs Pew Pew Pew

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    To add to the above info. I threw the scope with mount on my scale today and it weighed in at just a hair over 1 lb.

    It's a simple scope that gets the job done. I'm a big fan of low cost optics. I'm not a Tier 1 or even Tier 100 operator and I'm not going to be jumping out of airplanes with this thing. I however do not baby my equipment as you can probably tell from my AR pics above and anything that's not somewhat tough will probably live a short life ontop of my weapons.

    If you have the free money to drop on a 1000 to 2000 dollar optic more power to you but IMO 99.99 percent of the shooting public would be just as well served by a Primary Arms or Vortex optic and putting that extra money into ammo and range time.
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  4. Ulfberht Training and mentoring the next generation.

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    Thanks for the comprehensive (and succinct :D) review but one question; what is a "throw lever"?

    I'm all-for individual liberties; people mounting whatever scope they want falls under that.

    Hitting targets out-to or under 300 yards, filling the freezer with meat, doing it legally & safely, and then-doing all the other things that a (tradtitional) family-man does, is expensive enough!
  5. Ulfberht Training and mentoring the next generation.

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    Good info; hitting targets out-to or under 300 yards, putting meat in the freezer; legally & safely, then doing all the other things a traditional family man must do, is expensive enough.

    Operability, durability, & lifetime warranty may be the top 3 in scopes eh?

    Mea culpa; I had to search for the definition of "Throw Lever" :D.

    Addendum; had to look up "gun jail" too.
  6. downs Pew Pew Pew

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    It really gained fame through 3-gun competition use of rifles/carbrines. The time it saves adds up over a day of competition compared to twisting that knurled knob back and forth.
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  7. Ulfberht Training and mentoring the next generation.

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    Throw levers seem like a great idea for older shooters with less than 100% hands, shooting in cold weather (with gloves), or making adjustments without taking an eye off the target.

    Gonna get a couple sets; thanks!
  8. spamassassin Well-Known Member

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    ^^^ especially that last bit, not taking your eye off the target.

    Also called rat tails they're de rigeur in PRS style stuff lately. If you're using your scope on high power to shoot for increased precision you'll find it wickedly difficult to actually find your target quickly, especially when prone, without spinning down to a lower mag and zooming in. In competition or long range hunting scenarios where you're under time pressure they're extremely handy and they eliminate the busted knuckles associated with winding magnification up and down rapidly.
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  9. downs Pew Pew Pew

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    [IMG]

    Leatherwood 1-4x24. Picked up another for the patrol .308 mounted with UTG low throw lever mounts. Copious amounts of locktite used haha.


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  10. downs Pew Pew Pew

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    UPDATE!

    So this happened today :( I will be contacting Sportsman's Guide first then Leatherwood to see if they will replace it. I am kind of disappointed as it works quite well on my AR but maybe it just can't handle the .308's recoil. I will see how the company responds as far as sending me a new one or not. If not I'll just go Primary Arms or Vortex. It fell off in the middle of match. All of a sudden I was shooting 4 to 5 feet to the left at 25 yards. It wasn't until I called it quits that I noticed the turret was gone.

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  11. Nesereth New Member

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    Sorry to see your scope like that. Honestly I wouldn't expect Sportsman's Guide to do much. Their service has dropped sharply since the french company bough it years ago. Only thing I even bother going for anymore is their ammo once in a while (when I want cheap balk, which isn't often as I reload). Keep in mind I say this as the guide is only an hour drive away. When you walk in the guide now your see a lot of cloths and shoes with a counter in the very back for ammo/mags etc (the stuff you see on the site). You could get lucky (they may take it back and replace it) I just wouldn't let them know you tossed it on a 308 personally.
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  12. downs Pew Pew Pew

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    Nothing anywhere that says it can't be used on a .308. I won't be mentioning what it was mounted on as IMO it doesn't matter unless they specify what it can go on.

    I sent an e-mail straight to Leatherwood with no answer going on two days now. So I will be sending it back to Sportsman's Guide. I'm still within the return window and can elect to send it back for a refund. Not sure if I'll buy another one or pick up a Bushnell 1-4 or a Primary Arms 1-4 when they get back in stock.
  13. BakonShoot Member

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    That shouldn't be an issue unless it were mounted on a spring-powered air rifle, and if it specifically stated that it wasn't rated for spring-guns. The recoil of a springer, while not nearly the force of a powder burner, is not only in the rearward direction (like a normal powder burner), but also in the forward direction, due to the spring-driven piston slamming home in the front of the cylinder. That little bit of recoil in the opposite direction can cause problems for many scopes whose reticle/lenses aren't built to handle that kind of movement.

    Bryan
  14. downs Pew Pew Pew

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    I think I'll be picking up a Weaver V3 to replace it in the near future.
  15. alowerlevel New Member

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    Wow, was planning on ordering one for my patrol this weekend, now Im glad I waited.
    Looks like Ill be ordering a Vortex like I was originally going to.
  16. downs Pew Pew Pew

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    The one on my Ar in .223 has survived just fine. It could have been a lemon unit or it may not like the recoil of .308.

    For the extra 60 dollars I'll grab the weaver which has a mountain of reviews on higher caliber hunting guns.


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  17. downs Pew Pew Pew

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    Weaver V3 mounted. I'm really liking this thing. Half the weight of most 1-4s out there. I'll take an 8 to 9 ounce weight reduction for the cost of 1 order of magnification.

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