Is the MVP the perfect sidekick to the AR-15/M4?

Discussion in 'The Black Rifle' started by MechTech, Nov 10, 2012.

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Do you own an AR style rifle as well as a Mossberg MVP

YES 30 vote(s) 83.3%
NO 6 vote(s) 16.7%
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  1. MechTech Moderator/ Damn Yankee

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    Initially, when I first saw the Mossberg MVP it all made sense. I have several AR-15 style rifles and about 30 mags. I can swap the mags back and forth, as well as 5.56 Nato pressure ammo. Makes sense right? For some people it may have been the only reason they considered the MVP. Now that I own the rifle and know its capabilities, I would own one even if I didn't have an AR! It has proven itself to be an outstanding rifle and the fact that it uses mil-surplus mags is icing on the cake! So, did being an AR owner influence your decision and did you think it would be as accurate as your AR?
  2. victorsmalls New Member

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    I personally didn't know anything about the MVP until a buddy of mine from a local gun shop told me I had to stop in and check it out. At first sight I was in love. The looks are right from my book, and I wouldn't hardly need to add anything to the gun.

    Although I do own an AR, I find the bolt guns much more enjoyable. Something about being able to put that bullet exactly where you want, rather than just throwing lead down range.
  3. Dust New Member

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    If I didn't have an AR, or couldn't own a semi, I would have an MVP. I think this is what the AUssies or Brits are looking for. When they go big frame, .243, .260, .308, then I will have one
  4. Tumble weed Member

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    I have one AR, and up until I saw the MVP it was going to be my "everything rifle". 18" hbar, fixed a2 stock, widely available ammo and mags, buis, and as soon as I find the funds, an ACOG.
    BUT, an AR is semi-auto, and they are prone to jams, It's a sad fact of life. It's also heavy. Enter the MVP. Hell of a lot lighter than my AR, takes the same mags and ammo, bolt action seems reliable, and more accurate out of that stock medium barrel than a 600$ JP on an AR. One downside; can't mount that ACOG... yet. *nudges EGW*
    Honestly if I didn't grow somewhat attached to my AR I'd just sell it and buy the ACOG. For the POU the bolt action fits the bill.

    In short; owning an AR didn't make the choice, knowing the practicality of such a common mag and ammo did.
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  5. sharky47 Active Member

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    "they are prone to jams"

    Now I am not picking on you, calling you out, or starting a weiner-measuring contest - I am legitimately curious why you made this statement.

    I know there were issues in the 60's, but those were a result of mentally damaged central military planners trying to save a dime during their military industrial complex tax dollar orgy known as the vietnam war. Once the chrome lining/propellant/cleaning kit mess was figured out - the AR/M16 has been pretty solid. I know it has inherent design issues, but I have a pile of AR's in various configurations/calibers and they all run great! Bunch of my friends have M16s and we go through THOUSANDS of rounds of cheap ammo and they just keep on going.

    Is there a particular weapon or configuration that gave you issues? Were you stuck using a worn out hand me down weapon? Bad mags? I'm curious.....
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  6. Tumble weed Member

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    I'm well aware of the history of the AR platform Sharky, don't get me wrong. I didn't mean "oh itll screw you over every other magazine", I meant as a semi-auto, no matter how well designed the system is, there will always be the occasional stovepipe, failure to feed, overheating, etc. I love the AR platform and my rifle is very reliable, but for an all-purpose survival build a bolt gun is preferable imho.
    The other consideration is that, with a semi-auto, the ability and temptation is there to burn through much more ammo than with a bolt gun, which obviously is NOT desirable in a survival scenario.
  7. sharky47 Active Member

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    Gotcha, I hear you on the ammo temptation as well, although an odd thing happened when I started reloading......I am much more deliberate - even with the full/semi autos when I am running my own ammo. I figure it's because I am acutely aware of how much time/effort that 30rd mag cost me...
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  8. bombadillo Moderator

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    I like the rifle as it is a combination of everything I wanted. Perfect length and balance, nice medium barrel contour with fluting, nice stock, free floating, accurate, detachable AR mag compatible, and generally just a great gun all around. Its fun with a high powered scope on it so you can really reach out there.
  9. wood chucker Moderator

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    I cut my teeth on bolt and lever actions.
    Back in the stone age I didn't like having to cycle rounds through the chamber to clear the gun and I still don't.
    I also never liked the idea of paying exorbitant prices for hard to find proprietary magazines either.
  10. grumpyoldretiredcop New Member

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    I don't know about "sidekick", but it is a good complement to an AR. I always thought that the perfect sidekick to an AR rifle was an AR pistol, but then again, some folks say I'm a little warped... :p
  11. bneath New Member

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    The fact that the MVP would shoot 5.56 was #1 for me, AR mag compatible #2, long barrel = accuracy out beyond the AR platform was reason #3. Can't wait to shoot my new MVP.
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  12. AARPMAN New Member

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    Same reasons as bneath. And as the famous quote says: "The only interesting firearm is an accurate firearm." Taking mine out to the range tomorrow for the first time.
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  13. AlanD New Member

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    What it is for me.

    I have been shooting High Power Service Rifle in New York State, among other places. I live in Vermont.

    The NY SAFE ACT I am unable to legally attend NRA matches in NY state with a semi auto service rifle (albeit an M1 Garand, I think, (the Garand won WWII, how can that be evil? can't be ..... can it?)).

    Finding the MVP Varmit was a blessing. It's not my RRA NM, but shoots ever so well (or is it?). I am working on setting it up with iron sights and have yet to shoot a match. Done a little rapid fire in practice (with a scope) and I think it will be okay.

    Yes this rifle will reach out 600yds and touch someone. As least as well as I can.
  14. bombadillo Moderator

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    Now you just need to evil it up by dropping it in a chassis, and having a GASP..............pistol grip and collapsible stock!!!!!!!!!!!

    Then blow all the semi's out of the water by banging an X-Ring over and over. :D
  15. AlanD New Member

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    lololol
  16. ecliptix543 New Member

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    I guess I would say that the AR makes a good sidekick to the MVP, actually. I searched the online megastores for a decent bolt gun for close to three years before first stumbling upon the MVP. What kept me from pulling the trigger on one was that I'd either have low internal capacity or stupid expensive factory mags, a different caliber to keep in stock, or (like the $1000+ Savages I liked) it'd cost more than I was willing to put into my first centerfire bolt rifle. Sometime around the spring of 2011, I picked up a little Savage 93 22WMR at the local store that I usually deal with. Some kid had gotten it as a Christmas present but soon traded it towards one of those black-tac looking 22LR Savage Mk II's with the threaded barrel. It's the thumbhole stock stainless bull barrel one and was visually identical to the brand new one sitting next to it on the rack, plus it came with a few extra mags and was $100 cheaper for being "used". Needless to say, I got it on the spot and after the first trip to the range, I decided that the semiautos are for area suppression, bolts are for the real work. Thus began my search for a solid centerfire platform to match the 93.

    When I first saw the MVP Varmint on Davidson's and looked at the specs and features, then looked at the ridiculously low price for what it was and what it could do (5.56 & AR mags), my mind was made up and I've never looked back. It took awhile to get the funds allocated, but it's built out completely now with good quality equipment and my total cost is still under a grand. The way I see it, that rifle in bone stock configuration shoots much better than I do which means it has plenty yet to teach me about my trigger control, range estimation, how to really use the scope's advanced features, etc. I never got that feeling with any of the AR type rifles I've had. And for the price, it's a very useful set of lifetime skills and WAY cheaper than college! Since the MVP came into my arsenal, I sold the old Bushmaster 20" HBAR A2 and kept my S&W MP15 Sport just because I still like the AR's and I have to have at least one for SHTF scenarios (I live on the hurricane coast afterall, and we all saw what happened during Katrina/Sandy), but the MP15 is definitely second string to the MVP if I ever truly needed to place a single shot. Don't get me wrong, the MP15 is an outstanding little boomstick considering I got it new for a hair under $600, but at 200y+, it's more hope than certainty on a specific hit. The MVP does not share that shortcoming. At all. :D
  17. xxINKxx New Member

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    Having a crap ton of AR mags and ammo really sealed the deal for me buying the MVP..

    If it didn't take AR mags I wouldn't of even been intrested.

    My old Rem 700 I dumped a bunch of money into it to take mags, and the AICS mags were $70 + a pop. I don't want to go down that road again.
  18. Jimmy2112 Active Member

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    After I built my 2nd AR is when the MVP caught my attention. And I instantly thought, dang, that rifle would go good with the AR I had just finished. 16" Black Hole Weaponry barrel with a Primary Arms 6x ACSS scope. Rifle is very accurate. And with my 556 Patrol living in a MDT LSS chassis, with a Burris C4 556 3-9x40mm. The pair are double deadly together.

    I also paired up a Rem 700 Tactical in a MDT LSS chassis that has a Buckmaster 6-18x40mm Mil Dot with a custom DPMS 308 using Aero Precision M5 receiver's, with an 18" Black Hole Weaponry barrel and a Primary Arms 4-14x44mm ACSS. Another deadly combo. If MDT ever decides to build a TAC21 chassis for the MVP. I'll pick up a .308 MVP.
  19. PT109 Active Member

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    All about the mags. The wife has the AR and MVP/LSS in .223 and I have the DPMS .308 and need the MVP/LSS/Tac 21 in .308. Covers all the bases as far as hunting and defense. All use same pistol grips and ergonomics so transitions are very comfortable. Ar's and MVP's go together like peas and carrots!
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  20. Jimmy2112 Active Member

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    I just found a company that address some of the short comings of the LSS stock. One of the big ones, a longer forearm. They are called Drake Associates, Inc. It's also an ambidextrous stock for those lefties out there in the world. Just by switching a plate from one side to another.

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