Huge Optics Show at Next LR Match - Avenal, CA 8/21/16

Discussion in 'Optics and Tactical Gear' started by spamassassin, Aug 14, 2016.

  1. spamassassin Well-Known Member

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    Lads, we're going to be having a big optics show of sorts at our next long range precision rifle match at Avenal Gun Club in central California. All of the competitors will be setting up our rifles, binoculars, spotting scopes and laser rangefinders so people can get some eye time on them side by side.

    We know for sure that there will be high end models from:
    US Optics, Vortex, Burris, Khales, Schmidt & Bender, Steiner, Bushnell, Leupold, SWFA, and more and that's just the rifle scopes. I expect to see some Kowa, Vortex and Konus spotters and binoculars and LRF's from 600m golf oriented to a Vectronix Terrapin.

    Come out and shoot the match and you get a free BallisticXLR stock sticker for 1 load. Beat my score and you get a B-FEDS kit (check my site, ballisticxlr.com for details).

    Details:
    Sunday August 21st.

    Registration starts at 7:00 match starts at 8:00.

    Looks like the weather will be good with the temps not getting about 90°.

    avenalgunclub.com for address.

    Get gas IN AVENAL, not on the freeway. There's brilliant mexican food in Avenal. Bring ice and water and some protein rich temp stable food for the trail. Feel free to bring a pistol and jump into the pistol pit after the match and optics show.

    Match fee is $20, and this is a cash event since there's no way to take cards up there.

    Hotels are around and quality varies, best bet is up at the Harris Ranch exit. Motel 6 there is actually ok. Don't pay for the wifi, it sucks bawlz.

    If you plan to attend, please let me know, we'll trade contact info and you'll have someone to call if things go sideways for you on your way.

    Divisions are Open and Tactical Rifle. Open is any cal. TR is .308/.223. We have the prone and barricade sub-divisions as well.

    I'll be bringing my .308 and my .223 and my 7BR and we'll see which one I end up shooting in the match.
  2. spamassassin Well-Known Member

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    Here's a couple quick videos of the optics tables. We had a few pro shooters out there including one from GAP and they brought a bunch of USO scopes and Bushnell scopes including a yet to be released model that is the successor to the first LRHS series. Directly comparing at 300m against paper targets with 1" red outline squares with a white background there was really so little difference between a $5K and a $1K scope. Did learn a few things about who's using what glass and where they're actually being made and who's got what coming out. Essentially, look for all the new stuff from Bushnell. They're on a tear to dominate the marketplace in price vs. quality so they can own dominate it in sales.



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    Match results: Well things went really bad for me. On Saturday I busted an extractor on my Savage 10 .308 which I had considered using. Things were really going well with that gun and the ammo early in the morning before breakfast but the weather got super hot super fast (116 air temp at my zeroing bench) and my ammo didn't like that and went over pressure. It only took 2 shots to snap the extractor and get hard bolt lift. First round was just hard a little stiff on the bolt lift and I gave the second round and it just busticated the extractor. Grr.


    Groups: Top left is 5 shot group, Top center is 3 shots. Bottom left is 3 shots. Top are about .3-.4MOA
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    So, I reverted to my .223 MVP which was my backup and my 7br became my backup. Groups with all 3 were mostly under an inch at 200m and around 1-1.5 inches at 300m. Velocities were tight enough with only 13fps SD across 20 rounds as the highest level of inconsistency and that was on my hastily loaded .223's. I'd thought I'd run out of my 75gn Hornady HPBT's but it turned out I'd simply misplaced them. I ended up loading up the rest of my Berger 70gn VLD's at mag length with 23 grains of Benchmark and got 2917fps as an average. No pressure signs at all and nice round primers. Also got groups that were mostly between .3-.5MOA. I'd thought my accuracy days in that barrel were over but I guess not if I use that load.

    Here's my 7mm Rem Mag with 77 grains of US869 under a 168 Berger VLD doing 2950 (top right shot not in group). .6MOA roughly:
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    On match day it started out about 80deg by 0800 and got a lot worse fast. I got squadded so I started on stage 1 and would only have to walk the course once. My squad was entirely composed of people with health/physical issues. My knee is currently flaky and I wasn't sure I wouldn't break it on the hike so I was with the cripples (who I might add ended up the toughest guys I've ever met, one was 30% paralyzed and did the whole course and kicked arse, another had a broken hand for kryssakes).

    By stage 3 the temp had soared to 100F 4ft from the ground with ground temps exceeding 120. By stage 6 the ground temp climbed just over 150 (yeah, first degree burn territory through your clothes). I couldn't fire more than two shots without standing up and fluffing my clothes to pull some heat out. Right after I fired my shots and came off the line I jumped back on the water bottle and a few minutes later began vomiting uncontrollably for quite a number of minutes. We packed up for the next stage (me still puking the whole time) and walked to stage 7. I had flat cleaned up on 6 and did it again on stage 7 but the ground was even hotter and I had gone full heat stroke, started getting confused and thought it would be a good idea to bow out of the match right there. The other guys offered to carry my gear so I could finish but I was seriously about to have a medical emergency so I decided to go down the hill to stage 5 and get under the shade and drown myself in ice water to get my core temp down. I screwed up stage 1/2/3 with a twist of the scope turret by some admirer of my ST-10 during the optics show (despite everyone being asked to leave the turrets alone) but by 4 figured it out and was dialing back in. At the end of stage 7 I had 21 hits. My record on the course with the .223 was 22 and there were 7 of the easiest to hit targets at stage 8 and I always clean up there. The course record for .223 is 37. I think next time I'm going to have some more of those Berger loads and not let anyone touch my scope and I might just take the record.

    One of my smallest groups ever from any rifle. This is 3 shots of .223 at 300m. From the shiny spots it looks like center to center is about .3". I'm calling it a fluke.
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  3. BakonShoot Member

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    Man, that's dedication, SpamA!! Not many would have the intestinal fortitude to continue after tossing your cookies. You need one of those water-cooled suits like the race drivers wear, though that would probably require a caddy to carry around the pump/condensor/battery (hey, perfect situation for a solar panel to charge the battery!!).

    Once again, we really appreciate your comp reports, as well as your recommendations and comments on optics, not to mention reloading tips (even though I don't reload at this point).

    Bryan
  4. spamassassin Well-Known Member

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    Not really fortitude as much as stupid compounded by stubborn but the compliment is appreciated nonetheless. My tendency to ignore injury keeps trying to get me killed. I actually grew up on the edge of the Mojave desert so I'm kinda used to heat stroke suddenly creeping up on me and finding myself vomiting uncontrollably. Growing up picking produce next to Mexican migrants you quickly find out that you're expected to keep picking even if you're sick and the skill of completely ignoring your own health acutely degrading while doing some activity develops naturally from there.

    4 guys dropped out from heat exhaustion that day and 2 from injury. Part of me wishes I'd take up the offer to have the others carry my rifle and kit and have finished the last stage. I think that's the suicidal part cuz' it sure ain't the sensible part. If you're in California, you should come out and try a match. Don't worry if you don't have a rifle ready for it. One of us can hook you up on a loaner and some ammo.
  5. BakonShoot Member

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    That's a seriously nice offer, but living in the hills of western NC kinda precludes a drop-in visit to your area matches. :D

    Never been to California-- heck, I'm not sure if I'm ashamed or proud to admit that I've never even ventured west of the Mississippi, considering I'm on the last full month of my 5th decade. Who knows, maybe one of these years if I retire, I'll jump on my Triumph and tour the country... probably one or two things worth seeing out that way:cool:
  6. spamassassin Well-Known Member

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    Come on out some day. The state is absolutely nutter butter crazy near the coast but it's proper country living and simply amazing scenery away from there. If you do one thing in California take the scenic drive of your life: Ride from Sacramento through Yosemite then head down 395 till you get to 58, take 58 back over the Tehachapies to 5, head north and wind your trip up at Cowschwitz (Harris Ranch) with a meal.

    You'll go from flatland farms as far as the eye can see, over endless rolling grass hills to sharp dramatic granite scenery stuck in the middle of a pine forest and stream system that's story book quality, over 10K ft elevation pass, down into and through a proper high desert with the 12K ft Sierra Nevada ridge line to your left the whole time, through the low desert (death valley), back over some rolling grassland hills into endless flat farmland and wind it up with a decent steak. At only very few points in that ride will you have to contend with stereotypical Californians.

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