Episode 4: Starting over.

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  1. spamassassin Well-Known Member

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    I started going through all my 7mag brass and .308 brass and .223 brass and realized it's almost all in need of just throwing away at this point and starting with a fresh batch. All but my Prvi .223 cases are 80% of the way through their useful life. I've just been refusing to admit it to myself because brass is so damned expensive now.

    I also got my shipment of brand new Hornady .243 win brass for my new .243AI barrel and a bunch of boxes of 108gn ELD-M's, my new 6mm neck sizing and seating dies and a few bits and bobs. In the spirit of starting from scratch I've culled all of my older brass and I'm setting that aside for TEOTWAWKI.

    I've since ordered a very large box of Prvi 7mm Rem Mag brass (giving them a chance on some belted cases, their .223 brass is amazing for the price) to go with the very large box of 162gn ELD-M's I recently got.

    I'm going to pull down all of my existing loaded 7mag and .223 and .308 ammo tonight.
  2. Keith Moderator

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    How much do you shorten your case life with those hot loads you run to match shooting?
  3. spamassassin Well-Known Member

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    Around 60% reduction on average with military brass. On LC11 I was getting 3 loads before I started seeing case head separations start to appear. By 5th load some were splitting necks and some primers were loose enough to get black rings around them after firing and some wouldn't fit correctly in a shellholder and CHS's were much more common. The cull rate is pretty high with .mil brass to begin with. With my new PPU brass and the BHW barrel my pressures are way down and velocities are up with a lighter load on .223 ammo. I'm only .5gn over book max right now on my .223's. In my experience pressure limits take longer to get to with BHW's polygonal rifling in play and velocities are higher. With the factory Mossberg/Savage barrels I had to run pressures pretty tall to get the required velocities.

    My 7mag 162gn load so far is nowhere near max pressure. Over 3K FPS and plenty of room to go. I won't even be able to shoot max pressures with the .243AI due to MV restrictions.
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    Went through and finished my brass cull and pulled down a bunch of ammo for components. Got a bunch of supplies coming too. Got a new bullet comparator set and digital caliper, new 7mag brass, a bunch of bullets for .38spl and .357mag and .45ACP & Cinderblock loads. I gathered up all of the bad loads (crushed shoulders, rumpled necks, upside down primers, damaged bullets, ICHS suspects, etc...). That ended up to be 2 quarts of random ammo to pull down. Sorted all of my bullets and gathered all the remnants that I won't be using. I'll be listing those for sale here pretty soon. Lots of .30 cal and .223 and a bit of 7mm and .429 bullets so if you're a reloader and you want to get dibbs, LMK. I'll see if I can't have a list ready tomorrow morning with detailed info. It's going to be Hornady .30cal and Berger and Hornady .223 mostly with some Speer .30 cal and Remington .429 in there and a bit of MidwayUSA Dogtown .223 too.

    Doing all of that got me set up to start a big batch of pistol and carbine ammo so I'll be running that through for a couple days at least and I managed to find 100 rounds of 1-fire hornady .243 brass I can use to get my fireforming loads dialed in before doing it to my brand new brass.
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    You know how depressing it is to see a 5 gallon bucket full of brass and think, "man, none of that is worth loading."

    On the other side, the guy doing my barrel cerakote hasn't called me back in a week. getting irritated.
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    Picked up 500 new Winchester .45acp cases and 1000 each of new Winchester .38spl and 9x19mm and a 300 .357mag cases. Added that to the 500 rounds of starline .30carb brass I pulled in recently and the PPU .223 brass I got recently. That's about 4K rounds of new brass all tolled along with >2000 projos.

    The wife got me a present to go with everything else, an industrial arco bin rack. Came with 12 big ass bins and 4 huge ass bins that can all be organized into smaller buckets with little dividers. There's enough capacity for all of my new brass and all my bullets and dies.

    Like I said, starting over so all the old stuff, the dirty stuff it's just off to the side now. I'm still putting dividers into bins and transferring my bulk supplies into them. I'll get pics when it's in a state worthy of them.
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    Just ordered 8lbs of Reloader23 along with more PPU 223 cases and more .357mag PPU cases. I think I'm set for the rest of the year. yay.
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    Going to build 500x .45's today. 300x 200gn Bear Creek MCRNLHB's (moly coated round nose lead hollow base) and 150x 200gn Hornady HAP's (XTP's without skiving) loaded to .45ACP levels and 50 of them loaded to .460Rowland levels then I'll crank out 100x .357mag's with 125gn Hornady XTP's and 500x .38spl 158gn Berry's plated RN's. My spotter, The Disco Tripper, is coming over this morning to help since he shoots up half of my pistol ammo for me.
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    The bin rack is really coming together. I have to make a few more dividers tonight but it's within sight of done. So much space is clearing up with this thing. Really helps the organization in the garage in general. I'm running the bin rack in layers from top to bottom, fired brass, cleaned brass, sized brass, primed brass, projectiles, loaded ammo. I've got six bins of width so I can either have 6 calibers going with some in each stage or what's more likely to happen, I'll have some in 2-3 stages and some in 2-3 completely other stages. Since I tend to binge process and binge load that seems the best way to go. Because the Dillon is in use not everything goes through every stage atomically however, I tend to like to size and prime as a separate operation from the rest of the loading cycle for stuff like pistol ammo. It's easier that way since there's the case mouth belling stage which I set up on position 1 on my tool head so the powder die stays at position 2 where it's supposed to be so the powder charging actuator arm can do its job.
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