Coyote Hunting with Rimfire Cartridges

Discussion in 'Predator Hunting' started by MechTech, Dec 27, 2015.

  1. MechTech Moderator/ Damn Yankee

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    I have used everything from a 53 gr Vmax out of my MVP, a 12 gauge, and my compound bow to kill coyotes. My bow with a rage 2 blade does the least pelt damage and can be sewn up easy. I love my MVP for killing out to the 300 yd range, but it blows some big holes coming out! I am encountering more coyotes close range in the timber and I am going to start experimenting with rimfire calibers to see about lethality and minimal pelt damage. I am confident I can take head shots with a suppressed 22lr rifle under 50 yds, but not sure how they efficient it will be on vital shots. Any one currently using a rimfire cartridge or have experience hunting coyotes with rimfire cartridges?
  2. Jeb Member

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    I have never coyote hunted with a .22lr but I did with a .22 Magnum when I was younger. Close range my guess is it would be fine if you are using a semi auto a follow up shot would be easy enough.
  3. Keith Moderator

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    I know trappers like to use .22LR for the reasons you state but those are relatively stationary targets at pretty much point blank. I don't know if the round is enough further out. Head shooting a squirrel or rabbit is one thing. Coyote has a bigger and heavier skull. .22 Win Mag might be a better choice or one if the larger cased .17 rounds since .22 Win Mag is a harder to find round.


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  4. spamassassin Well-Known Member

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    I don't think rimfire is legal as a method of take where I live outside of trapping and all my experience using rimfire against fur bearers and varmints of that size is in the context of trapping where considerations of shot placement are a 100% non-issue, shots are to the head and taken at whispering distance. If you want minimal pelt damage on yotes' you might try Barnes varmint grenade. In .223 and .243 cal they've been ok for me HOWEVER getting the bullet in behind the leg bone and into the middle chest was the only way not to have a horrific crater in the near side and no real penetration. A lesson you need exactly one time before it's really burned in. VG's are seriously hyper fragile and won't come out the other side of a rabbit much less a coyote. In fact that's the problem: Getting them into the inside of a coyote. I've shot jack bunnies with VG's and they didn't penetrate through both sides, did completely gut the bunnies for me though.

    I'd recommend, since pelt damage is what your issue appears to be, checking out the videos by brass fetcher on youtube https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC1UICFxcABkGg8Nj3X0dW8Q and finding bullets that don't show any tendency to do anything but penetrate in a straight line and that produce insignificant bullet wound tracks.

    .300BLK with a 220gr OTM seems to be a swutting fantastic hole poker. I know from experience that 147gr FMJ .308's and .30-06's are amazing hole pokers on dog size things. .30 carbine FMJ's are just about perfect hole pokers if a little anemic. So are 9mm FMJ's and .380ACP FMJ's but they're weak as snot. If you drop to under .30carbine power levels the killing power even on coyote size things is really really poor. .30 carbine is marginal on dog size stuff for speed of kill (works great on turkeys though) and the soft points don't do excessive damage so that might actually work for you too. You can still sew up a .30carb exit wound.

    Basically what you're looking for is non-fragmenting, non-expanding, hole poking FMJ of the sort frequently fired from WWII battle rifles or super violently expanding fast moving innard liquifiers with hideously poor penetration and then in both cases making the perfect shot to get it into the chest cavity. In the case of the expanding type, while avoiding ALL bones.

    here's a .223 cal varmint grenade fired from 15 feet into a jack rabbit, broadside in the chest. WARNING EXTREMELY GRAPHIC (mods if this is too much, please feel free to edit or LMK and I will)




























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  5. MechTech Moderator/ Damn Yankee

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    Thanks everyone for chiming in! I have had similar results as spamassassin with 223 Vmax bullets. I have seen several coyotes during deer season this year all withing the 50 to 80 yd range. I am tagged out for deer season, so I think I will start playing with coyotes here soon. I will use my Savage 22lr with CCI 40 gr subs to experiment. I always carry a 4" 357 when in the woods, so worst case scenario I will dispatch them with it. I would like to shoot at least 2 coyotes and gauge the results. I can do the post mortem when skinning them out and post the results.
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    I will start using my MVP in February once it gets cold and the Coyotes start mating. Every season I save all the entrails and trimmings from my deer harvests in a bucket and dump them in the field when it gets really cold. Then I sit in my blind with my MVP and pic off crows and coyotes. Minimum shots are 150 yds and that's when the MVP starts shining!
  6. PD Fisher Member

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    I don't see why a .22 lr won't work at fairly short distances. At least it'll be a good experiment.

    If you have access to a .17 hmr that be a good choice. I don't "hunt" yotes but a friend of mine is into it ( I just shoot upon opportunity). He likes the .17 hmr. Fast expansion, high velocity. I've seen his kills. Small hole in and rarely a exit but insides are mangled bad.

    .223 ball ammo may not tear up hide either.

    Good luck. I'd like to know what ya figure out.
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  7. cwlongshot Member

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    I have shot many dozen with my 22mag form rifles and hand guns. The 22mag is FINE if you can place your shots. I have dont it out to about 150, but feel 125 is a sensable maximum. The maggie produced the power of a LR at 100 yards so if your happy with a LR out to 50, the maggie will be fine to 150 ish.

    CW
  8. Jeb Member

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    I trapped when I was a kid and carried my 10/22 ruger with me. I always had trouble killing possum's that I caught in traps with my .22lr.
  9. wood chucker Moderator

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    .22 Hornet has twice the velocity and about 6 times the muzzle energy of a .22 LR Hi-Speed. Noise and blast of it are hard to tell from a .22 Mag.
    The velocity makes those bullets mushroom.
  10. MechTech Moderator/ Damn Yankee

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    I am in a coyote hunting tournament next weekend so I will have a change to try out my 22LR. I am mainly going to use my 5.56. It's a 2 man team, and my buddy is using his Savage 6.5 Creedmoor for the long range sniping. Hopefully we pile em up!!
  11. cwlongshot Member

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    WELL...

    How did you do??

    CW
  12. CaliforniaKid New Member

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    .22 lr are just not enough to bring down a coyote humanly or reliably. In fact . 22 lr hollow points will normal bounce off or open up on the skull and not penetrate. .22 magnum should be considered the very least you should use. Just my .02.
  13. MechTech Moderator/ Damn Yankee

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    Well, everytime I get out with my 22lr , I cant call a coyote in to save my rear! If I take my 6.5 Creedmoor or my AR they come right to the call. They are conspiring against against me!!! As of late, we cant seem to call any in, due to terrible hunting conditions. I hunted last weekend in a coyote tournament with 67- 2man teams and we only killed 12 coyotes total for the whole tournament due to 40 mph wind gusts the whole weekend!

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