ACCURATE FACTORY LOAD for MVP 308 PATROL??? Help please!

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  1. gashmaster344 New Member

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    i've tried lots of differant factory loads, but i havent really found anything that will do moa or sub moa consistantly...any group size / accuracy/ velociety info will be help full... thanx
  2. gashmaster344 New Member

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    i really like the concept of the gun as a truck gun/ suppressor host...but not thrilled about the accuracy so far....i tried the mdt chassis and sent it back, due to only being able to get magpul p mags to work, and accuracy was not improved....i've heard they had a boar problem, and i was gunna slug my barrel but i havent checked it yet...any info or help...please chime in thanx....
  3. spamassassin Well-Known Member

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    Every gun is different and has completely different ammo preferences. Nature of the beast.

    The above noted, some ammo is better than others in that it normally produces decent accuracy from just about any rifle (normally stunning performance in match grade rifles). I would suggest trying Federal Gold Medal Match 168grain. If those don't fly try the 175's. If that doesn't work, get a press and dies and roll your own or pitch that bang stick to the curb and get nuther'.
  4. gashmaster344 New Member

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    thanks for the reply...tried fggm 168, hornady 168 hpbt...they shot ok....once in a while i could squeeze .75 moa out of them but not real consistantly....i would like to try the 175's as i've heard the 7.62 chamber has a huge jump...it shoots cor bon 185 fmj bt sub sonic match quite well consistantly under moa...lol this leads me to belive that 175-180gr supersonics may do better...hopefully...
  5. spamassassin Well-Known Member

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    They all seem to have a pretty long throat so no surprise there. I load 75gn .223's for my MVP ridiculously long to get them to jam. Helps make room in the case for powder but makes mags useless.
  6. gashmaster344 New Member

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    i;ll roll my own eventuly...hope fully sombody has found a factory load that will do moa...eventhough all rifles are individule....thought about rebarreling it my self if i can find an aftermarket barrel...any sugguestions?
  7. wood chucker Moderator

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    Have you tried Federal and Remington match ammo yet ??

    Mine like it and love hand loads of 4064 topped by 180 gr SMK
  8. Keith Moderator

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    Have you tried Remington yet? Mine seems to shoot best with that in 168 grain so far. I'm still experimenting as I have time. At 100 yards I was able to get a 3/8" group I think the ammo I used was Remington Premium HPBT Match. Federal Sierra HPBT did ok but not as well in 168 grain.
  9. gashmaster344 New Member

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    thanx ill try that out when i start loading. i tried 168 fgmm and hornaday... shot ok but not moa consistantly
  10. gashmaster344 New Member

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    thanks ... ive heard elsewhere that rem 168 hpbt match was doing well , so ill definitely give them a try... also heard the ted neugent 180ttsx was sub moa ....
  11. Keith Moderator

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    One step at a time. :)

    If 168 doesn't pan out, maybe 180 will. Finding out what your rifle likes is fun and frustrating at the same time.

    Even better is when more than one rifle likes the same load but Murphy doesn't like it when that happens.


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  12. gashmaster344 New Member

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    im still playing with ammo options... if i dont find one to my liking. i thought about having sharky47 rebarrel mine. although i would like to see how light of profile i could go and still maintain good accuracy...any idea what he charges to rebarrel? or barrel profile options...
  13. wood chucker Moderator

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    You'd have to ask him about options and pricing and whatnot. Good guy does nice work.

    I forget what his name is but the guy who is X-Ring Accuracy builds good stuff. Mike Bacon and Robert Lynch use him a lot for their rifles.

    There also Ol what's his name out there,,,,,,,,,Feldkamp, Karl Feldkamp of Kampfeld Customs out in Idaho. He does real nice work too and his fluted barrels are almost too nice to shoot ( almost )

    Down in Grants Pass, Oregon is Mark Skaggs of Skaggs gunsmithing. I aint spoke with him in a few years so I don't know if he's still practicing the trade but he's one of the few remaining old school classically trained gun plumbers from back in the day. You might look him up too.
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  14. gashmaster344 New Member

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    ok finally got my reloading stuff set up. brass preped and trimmed to 2.005, winchester large primers and 165gr sst, 150gr sst, brass is fedral and has been tumbled and full length resized, and primer pocket cleaned...any ideas what powder and charges to try or where to seat the bullet? looks like 2.803 coal is the longest it can be seated and still have mag clearance
  15. Keith Moderator

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    We'll have to wait for Spanmassasin or one of the experienced reloaders to chime in. Best I can tell you is to pick in whatever reloading manual you have about half way down the list and about mid-way through the powder loads to start with and see how it does. Spammassassin has more experience with the long range reloading since he shoots competition. I'm not sure how else reloads on here but I'm sure there are a few.
  16. spamassassin Well-Known Member

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    For the 150gn load, IMR 4064 or IMR 4895 are going to be the best choices in powders I have lots of experience with. There is the option of CFE223 which yields slightly higher velocities but it takes a pretty heavy load to get there. I load high volume so I tend to prefer the powder that gets the velocities I want with a case fill as close as possible to 100% using the lowest charge weight. Start your loads at 2.800" COAL. That should seat you at the cannulure. After you get experience loading to book you can fiddle with seating depth. Remember, seating depth can be the difference between a safe load and a not safe load.

    I also like Benchmark and BL-C(2). They give slightly lower velocities but they're a lot easier to deal with as they meter extremely well. The IMR stick powders don't meter for poo so it's manual charge weighing for every case. For a beginner that's definitely the way to go. High volume dispensing is something to start after you've gotten a system down that identifies bad loads before they've got a bullet in them.

    EDIT: Checked my data and the 165's will like the same powders as the 150's. Start at the minimum load. Don't get optimistic and start high.
  17. spamassassin Well-Known Member

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    Oh, if you don't already own hard copies of 3-4 loading manuals, get them and read them. They're going to help you.

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