5.56 MVP Flash Hider (M-16 Style)

Discussion in 'CrossHair Precision LLC' started by mbacon, Oct 31, 2014.

  1. mbacon CrossHair Precision Industry Partner

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    PT109. You killed me when I read that last post from you! Too funny. Glad I could entertain you. I'm trying to learn all I can. It's been an amazing journey this last year with so many knowledgeable people to learn from.
    If I don't know something, I'll be the first to admit it. Many times I start off going in one direction and then end up in an entirely different direction just based on new information. The extractor is turning into one of those items as I have another material I'm testing that I think will be even better than the first one I tried. In the end, we all win! Thanks for the post.
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  2. mbacon CrossHair Precision Industry Partner

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    Bombadillo,
    That's a damn good question! I'm still tweaking my design based on some new information I JUST received, and it looks like you are exactly correct with your assumption.
    The "magic" happens when you get the right internal profile happening, and the tine lengths just right. The rest is just up to making a prototype and taking it out to the range with a dB meter and a digital camera.
    One to measure noise, and the other to capture the flash. I'm guessing that this will be a longer process than other less scientific projects, but that's part of the fun.

    What I'm definitely NOT going to do is make any kind of suppressor. That requires a special license from the government along with all sorts of silliness, and specific work requirements that I don't even want to think about right now.
    Maybe later down the road when I have someone else helping with the mechanical designs. Right now, it's just me and Rob.

    Take care.
  3. Surgical_SolutionsX New Member

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    Has anyone looked at using the Surefire or the Seekins designs? They are both 3 prong. Initially I was going to run the Surefire until Joel @ V7 Weapons Systems came out with the Furioun Muzzle Brake, and it sits real nice on my Moss.
    Surefire: http://www.brownells.com/rifle-part...ers/socom-3-prong-flash-hiders-prod55224.aspx

    Alot of guys from the SOF commuinity and JSOC were and maybe still are running the AAC Blackout Non-mount flash suppressors and now they have the new BLACKOUT® 5.56MM 90T Tapered Flash Hider (SR-5) fast attach as well. Also another leader in the military community for flash suppression is B.E. Meyers, see link below:
    http://www.weaponoutfitters.com/upp...-meyers-flash-hider-for-5-56mm-weapons-1.html
  4. ARKLITE881South Member

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    It's a good suppressor, but, now i don't have any C-rat wires to break open with it :] Oh, the memories
    RVN 67-68 USMC Happy Birthday MARINES!!!
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  5. mbacon CrossHair Precision Industry Partner

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    Too funny! I'm happy to hear that you don't have any C-rats to pry open. That's a GOOD problem to have.
    Happy 239th Birthday to the Marine Corp, and a very big HOOOORAAAA to our fine men and women in military service this Veterans Day 2014.

    Michael
  6. mbacon CrossHair Precision Industry Partner

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    Surgical,

    I haven't been ignoring you. I've been reading up on all of these different designs. I'll check the ones you were kind enough to mention. Thanks.

    Michael
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  7. Ryan Towry Member

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    I love these kinds of threads with theoretical design. It might be that I love fluid dynamics but I totally just needed out reading this thread.

    My one thought:
    If you put the singular prong at 6 o clock and can build the brake with some back pressure then you can have somewhat of a brake as well as a flash hider.
  8. mbacon CrossHair Precision Industry Partner

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    Ryan,

    Thanks for dropping in. Not a bad suggestion. I'm working on a new magazine release for the 7.62 and am anxious to get back onto the flash hider after the new year. Feel free to add to the discussion at any time.
  9. wood chucker Moderator

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    I'm IN ! :D

    Two please :)
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  10. S1Loki Active Member

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    I was always fond of the mil/brake from Fabian Brothers. Pretty effective on the mini14. It will get you noticed
  11. KennyS New Member

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    I like it! I recently purchased one that looks similar, suppressor compatible. I Have a 7.62 MVP Talo.[IMG]
  12. Joe58 New Member

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    New to the forum and bought a new Patrol .308

    First 5 shots at 100 yards with 168gr Sierra were all touching. Now I can't shot it again. Lol.

    I myself like the look of you design and would be wanting to try one in my .308

    Good stuff!
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  13. joe huffman New Member

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    great discussion, i have watched several videos trying to find the flash hider that eliminates barrel rise. my opinion if you can keep your groups tight its more of preferance of sound like a fine tuned auto exhaust that impresses your buds. good luck with your project only field time will tell if you got it right

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